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post #586 of 2057
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Originally Posted by Dionysus View Post
Hello all first post so please be gentle 

I will be receiving my Essence sound card today from Newegg great thread lots of excellent information here I do have a couple of question with regards to my setup I would like to ask.

Firstly I downloaded the user manual to take a look at the I/O of the card.

I am a little confused about something why does the manual show input 3 as the dedicated headphone output to plug in your cans, an then under connecting headphone it say’s to use RCA-to-3.5mm Y cable?

The other question is I have to sets of phones one is the Sennheiser PC 350 which is a gamer set obviously it as 2 jacks one for the mic, and the headphone input.
Would you guys connect those as the manual suggest which is RCA-to-3.5mm Y cable to the left and right outs or would you guys use the dedicated headphone jack, and then plug in the mic accordingly.

I want to achieve the best possible audio quality for both music listening through my HD595, and also make sure that all my connections are proper.


Thanks in advance.
Firstly, I'd sell that POS PC350 and use the HD595 for gaming and save your cash (or use that money to buy some Audio Technica AD700's for gaming or if you really want a boom mic [not recommended as the stereo headphone + clip-on mic route is far better value], a Beyerdynamic MMX2 for around the same cash)
Then buy a cheap clip-on mic.
You'll be better off.
Anyway, the Essence package should include one 3.5mm to 6.3mm adapter (the gold pointy thing for lack of better words). Use that to plug it into the headphone out. I think you'll need another one for the mic out as well.
Your HD595 package should of had one as well.
If you have Windows XP, you will have to configure Kernel Streaming to bypass the crappy way XP processes audio (KMixer).
A guide to set it up is below.
If you are on Vista, there is no need to do this.
post #587 of 2057
For this you will need Winamp or Foobar2000 as a software music player. Winamp and Foobar2000 are far superior software music players than sh*tty iTunes and Windows Media Player, both are far more customiseable, both are far less resource hogging and both have superior support for a lot more audio files and audio-related features than both iTunes and WMP. Therefore I highly suggest 'moving' from iTunes or WMP to one of these players if you haven't done so already.
For people shifting from iTunes that have alot of .m4a and .acc files, both players support .m4a and .acc file playback natively.

Anyway, I'll better start explaining how to configure kernel streaming, starting with Foobar2000 followed by Winamp.
This is assuming of course that you've downloaded and installed either one of the two players
Note that your Foobar2000 template layout might be different from the screenshots (you can choose what layout you want upon install and you can always change it later).
This however doesn't affect the menu settings (which you can configure too by the way).
For ease of use however for this guide, all menu settings are the default ones.

Configuring kernel streaming via Foobar2000

* First download the Kernel Streaming Plugin and unzip the .dll file to your 'components' folder in Foobar2000.
This is usually 'C:\Program Files\Foobar2000\components' or whatever directory you installed Foobar2000 in.

* Open up Foobar2000

* Go 'File ---> Preferences'

* If needed, expand 'Playback' by clicking on the [+] symbol.

* Click on the word 'Output'

* Under 'Output Device', there should be a drop-down menu. Select the one which has
'KS: [Name of your soundcard] [Name of the PCI port you installed it in]'



* Under 'Output Format/Postprocessing', there is another drop-down menu. Change the output to '24-bit', as all X-fi cards can process 24-bit data.



* Click 'Save All' then 'Close' and then restart Foobar2000.


You're all done!

Sidenote: The 'Buffer Length'

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This determines the length of data, in ms, to buffer. This can help avoid any playback skipping when working with other processes. Higher buffering can also lead to increased memory use as well however, as well as increased delay in certain processes being applied, e.g. changing volume will takes X ms to apply. For best performance and minimum delay you should set this as low as you reasonably can without noticing any playback issues. - A complete guide to Foobar 2000 - TechSpot
Playback issues can include skipping, 'static' or the track not even playing at all. The higher quality your soundcard and CPU, the less chance of issues arising because of lowering the buffer length.
Mine's set at 250ms but this is purely optional and not essential for bit-perfect output.

Configuring kernel streaming via Winamp

Well, although I personally use Foobar2000, I admit that installing this in Winamp is slightly easier.

* Firstly, download the latest version of the Winamp Kernel Streaming Plugin (v.3.63 at time of writing).

* Unzip the .dll file and put it in the 'Plugins' folder of Winamp, usually C:\Program Files\Winamp\Plugins' or whatever directory your Winamp installation is in.

* Open up Winamp and go to Options ---> Preferences --> Output. Click on 'Kernel Streaming Output' and then click 'Configure' at the bottom of the Winamp Preferences box.
Select your soundcard under 'Output Device'.

Optional: I recommend ticking the 'Gapless Mode' box as well, as playback will not be interrupted between tracks. This is particularly useful if you're listening to an album track-to-track as a lot of albums are made to feel like one continuous track.




* Click 'Ok' and restart Winamp.
post #588 of 2057
Isn't wasapi better than KS ?
post #589 of 2057
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Originally Posted by HeadLover View Post
Isn't wasapi better than KS ?
No, the same really (sonically).
Thus why you don't need to configure Kernel Streaming in Vista.
post #590 of 2057
So, if I am using Vista, it will better using WASAPI, not ?
post #591 of 2057
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Originally Posted by HeadLover View Post
So, if I am using Vista, it will better using WASAPI, not ?
If you want to save time configuring and installing stuff, yeah.
WASAPI's fine for bit-matched playback
post #592 of 2057
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
Firstly, I'd sell that POS PC350 and use the HD595 for gaming and save your cash (or use that money to buy some Audio Technica AD700's for gaming or if you really want a boom mic [not recommended as the stereo headphone + clip-on mic route is far better value], a Beyerdynamic MMX2 for around the same cash)
Then buy a cheap clip-on mic.
You'll be better off.
Anyway, the Essence package should include one 3.5mm to 6.3mm adapter (the gold pointy thing for lack of better words). Use that to plug it into the headphone out. I think you'll need another one for the mic out as well.
Your HD595 package should of had one as well.
If you have Windows XP, you will have to configure Kernel Streaming to bypass the crappy way XP processes audio (KMixer).
A guide to set it up is below.
If you are on Vista, there is no need to do this.
Wow.....thank you. I use Vista 64bit sp1.
So you really think highly of the PC350 huh they use the same driver as the 595 it cant be that horrible of a headset
So you would use the headphone out instead of the RCA connection for all headphone use? The manual is not that clear thanks again.
post #593 of 2057
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Originally Posted by Dionysus View Post
Wow.....thank you. I use Vista 64bit sp1.
So you really think highly of the PC350 huh they use the same driver as the 595 it cant be that horrible of a headset
So you would use the headphone out instead of the RCA connection for all headphone use? The manual is not that clear thanks again.
Headphonic: The Sennheiser PC350 | Headphonic: Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more

Anyway using your logic, why would you have 'two' HD595's anyway when buying a clip-on mic for >$10 is far cheaper and does the same job?
Tbh, the RCA connection sounds better to me than the Headphone Out but the RCA connections bypasses the internal headphone amp.

If you haven't got an external headphone amp, I'd test out both and hear what you like better. That's always the best way to go.
When using the RCA connections, switch the 'Analog Out' in the Xonar Audio Center to '2 Speakers'.
post #594 of 2057
Thread Starter 
@chinesekiwi, have you tried the audioburst output plugin with the Essence?
post #595 of 2057
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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post
@chinesekiwi, have you tried the audioburst output plugin with the Essence?
No, not yet. I'll check it out.
post #596 of 2057
Quote:
Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
Headphonic: The Sennheiser PC350 | Headphonic: Australian Headphone Specialists: Buy Etymotic, Alessandro, Audio Technica, Ultimate Ears, Talisman, Meier Audio and more

Anyway using your logic, why would you have 'two' HD595's anyway when buying a clip-on mic for >$10 is far cheaper and does the same job?
Tbh, the RCA connection sounds better to me than the Headphone Out but the RCA connections bypasses the internal headphone amp.

If you haven't got an external headphone amp, I'd test out both and hear what you like better. That's always the best way to go.
When using the RCA connections, switch the 'Analog Out' in the Xonar Audio Center to '2 Speakers'.
Well I did order the PC350 with the card and I suppose I could just return it if I decide not to open them.
I figured it was a good set of headphone I could use while gaming, and didnt have to use a clip on mic. I read several reviews on the PC350 prior to finding Head-fi from several review sites and they all seemed positive.

Sennheiser PC 350 PRO-Gaming Headset Review - Peripheral Reviews - TrustedReviews
Sennheiser PC 350 Review and User Opinions - Sennheiser - Computer Hardware & Peripherals Reviews by Digital Trends

but I hear ya I will listen to the Essence with my hd595, and see how it all goes....if it sound good which it should Ill return the PC350.

Well......I wish I would have this forum before I bought the PC350.

Thanks again
post #597 of 2057
Thread Starter 
I have bee using the HD595 with the Essence STX and they sound very good.
post #598 of 2057
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Originally Posted by riderforever View Post
Have you ever done a side by side comparison of your Marantz and the Essence? I know they play in a really different league, but it would be nice to know if the extra money of the Marantz is really worth it.

I haven't so far...I only tested the card with my Grados, as I'm too lazy to switch cables on my HD650, and recently I've been using exclusively the Sennheisers with the Marantz/B52 combo. Judging from what I remember, the Essence seems to lack a bit on focus and depth compared to the player/amp combo, but several months passed since I last used my GS1000. I'll do a check one day...
post #599 of 2057
i've ordered the STX, should be arriving in a week or so. now i eagerly await the results from ROBSCIX's opamp tests.
post #600 of 2057
New guy here sorry. I've been following this thread closely and read all 40 pages.I just picked up an STX myself which should be here tomorrow or monday replacing my X-fi Titanium.

From what I've been reading so far about the opamps

LT1361 > LM4562
2114 < 2134

Is that correct what what I read? btw, I'm waiting on ROBSCIX's opamp tests also.
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