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post #811 of 3714
The MTT M9 for $10?! I would urge anyone who has been curious about the new MTT/SFS Mahler cycle to grab that as soon as you can click the button. I might not choose the 9th as the best first purchase from MTT's cycle, but at that price it's a steal. That's a good price for any 2-disc new release, and unheard of for this particular album.

As to the discussion about reviews of new vs. old recordings, I have some things to say about it and was thinking a few weeks ago about writing a little piece on that general topic on Talking Notes, but haven't gotten around to it yet. I don't have much time right now, but I will be back to chime in soon.

-Jay
post #812 of 3714
I orderd the MTT mahler 9th for 9.99 then thru in the new Van Morrison for 12.99 for free shipping. It's back ordered, but for that price I can wait. The MTT Mahler 9th is the only (was the only) MTT Mahler that I have not purchased yet.
post #813 of 3714
After listening to it many, many times I have to give a big thumbs down to the Kubelik set. His Mahler interpretations merely skirt along the surface, with little depth. In essence, his mahler sounds like beethoven, and that is not a compliment. Avoid.
post #814 of 3714
Doc,
Thanks for the heads up on the MTT bargain, just put in my order.
post #815 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Tyson
I will need to revisit my Kubelik Cds to see where they stand in the overall scheme of things, I only have partial set consisting of:

Kubelik/DG Originals 1st
Kubelik/Audite 5th (live)
Kubelik/Audite 7th (live)
Kubelik/Audite 9th (live)

You should be able to sell your Kubelik set used pretty easily at Amazon, for some reason it is hard to find now but a couple months ago everyone had it.

Still thinking about that Mitropoulos/Music & Arts partial set, but I already have 6th on "great conductors" CD and not really interested in 8th, so really only want 1,3,5,9 from this set.

BTW we need to see your "list" of top 2-3 performances of each Mahler symphony. This is very interesting exercise to see what each person's preferred style is.
post #816 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
MTT M9 Hybrid SACD on sale for $9.99 at tower.com.

I kid you not.
Just to remind you, they also have the new Rattle M8 at the same price! I think the low prices have to do with the promotions when something is just released.

Tyson,

I have always loved Kubelik's Mahler and have the DG cycle. The Audite recordings are supposed to be as good, but are live performances and have that tension. I think that Kubelik has the affinity for Mahler because they both come from the Czech music culture, but that's probably just fanciful thinking on my part.
post #817 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
I think the low prices have to do with the promotions when something is just released.
I was thinking about this last night.

It's the miracle of "spot Internet pricing". Here's how I think it goes: A computer model tells them that the MTT (or Rattle) Mahler series is selling well (for classical SACDs anyway) and has market "traction". Then, it identifies the MTT 9 (in this case) as the weakest selling of the set (or newest, or whatever). Thus, the model then tells them to temporarily sell it at cost (probably) with the idea that people will also buy regular-priced CDs when they pick it up (especially with the incentive to get to $20 for "free shipping".)

Not a bad business model, and something that makes possible some great deals if we know where to look.
post #818 of 3714
I don't know if it's that sophisticated, but tower usually puts anything new on sale for about 2 or 3 weeks. They do the same with their non classical selections too. I think it's just to jump start the sales because they know that once something is on the shelf for a while, it loses the attention of the public and word of mouth is really what sells items.

Btw, Barnes and Noble also has the Rattle M8 on sale for 12.98 for members, which is not as good as the tower price (9.99), but you get same day delivery in manhattan for free if you get the order in before 11am.
post #819 of 3714
The Kubelik 4th is not bad, probably the only one of the set I really like. He just misses so much of the angsnt and turbulence that is critical to mahler, at least in my opinion.

Here's my list:

1st - Solti
2nd - Klemperer
3rd - Abbado (1st cycle) & MTT
4th - Szell
5th - Karajan & Tennstedt
6th - Karajan
7th - Abbado & MTT
8th - no one, I dislike this work
9th - love this one, but no one has done it right yet (IMO). Hoping MTT might do the trick.
post #820 of 3714
MTT M9 review:

http://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=8925
post #821 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
MTT M9 Hybrid SACD on sale for $9.99 at tower.com.
I kid you not.
Was that 24hr sale or something...........today price is $24.99 ??????

Whats going on here......
post #822 of 3714
It wasn't when I ordered it today! I also ordered the Rattle M8 at the same price.

Edit: If you call them, I'll bet they give you the reduced price. Sales usually last until midnight.
post #823 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyson
The Kubelik 4th is not bad, probably the only one of the set I really like. He just misses so much of the angsnt and turbulence that is critical to mahler, at least in my opinion.

Here's my list:

1st - Solti
2nd - Klemperer
3rd - Abbado (1st cycle) & MTT
4th - Szell
5th - Karajan & Tennstedt
6th - Karajan
7th - Abbado & MTT
8th - no one, I dislike this work
9th - love this one, but no one has done it right yet (IMO). Hoping MTT might do the trick.
Actually, Kubelik's Titan is considered reference for the work. Kubelik is not hyper emotional Mahler, but he does have more feeling for the folk tunes that Mahler weaves in and I love the stridency of the brass that he obtains. Surprisingly, Kubelik had a better handle on the Klezmer motifs than Bernstein. MTT, on the other hand really has a good feeling for the Klezmer, probably because of his family heritage, his grandmother was Bessie Tomashevsky, after all.

I like the 8th, the one I have problems with is the 7th, which is often called the "orphan" of the cycle (no idea why). The interior 3 movements are okay, the last movement is better, but the first movement can put me to sleep. When I saw it performed I was really surprised at how MTT kept it moving while keeping the architecture nice and clean. Kudos to MTT for that!
post #824 of 3714
I was thinking of posting my favorite Mahler moments.. you know, those particular times when the hair on the back of your neck stands up, or you get goose bumps, or the lump forms in your thoat, that kind of thing.

But the more I thought about it, the more difficult it seemed to try to describe exactly where in the music I'm talking about. It would be easy of we all had scores, but I'm sure most of us do not. If I said it happened at "12:00 in movement 2" that wouldn't mean anything because the timings are different from version to version.

I was thinking of how to describe that spot in the 3rd movement of the 2nd, where the calm, soothing trumpt theme comes in, about 3/4ths of the way into the movement, before the ending that foreshadows the last movement. You might know what I'm talking about, you might not. I wish there was a better way to describe it.

The glissando about halfway through the 3rd movement of the 6th. *Shiver*

The slow, climbing motive in the first movement of the 9th that just seems to keep reaching and reaching until it finds its own little bit of heaven at the top in the lovely little flute/violin duet.

Sometimes, to quote Elvis Costello, Writing about Music is about as effective as Dancing about Architecture.

or something like that..

-jar
post #825 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Was that 24hr sale or something...........today price is $24.99 ??????

Whats going on here......
Sadly, the price appears to be higher now. I hope as many people as possible were able to get orders in before the price changed.

Now, we'll see if they actually get delivered...
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