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post #796 of 3714
Scott,

That's the question! Is the Chailly set going to be issued in SACD or not?!? The 3rd and 9th have been released in Hybrid SACD; whether the others will be released or remastered into the format is anyone's guess.

As for the MTT, that is a complete cycle that is being issued piece by piece, and they all have been issued in hybrid SACD format under the San Francisco Symphony label. According to what I have read, the latest in the can is Symphony 7, but that has not yet been released. So far, Symphonies 1,2,3,4,6,9 have been released in the format that I know of. I would imagine that 5,7,8, and Das Lied von der Erde are probably in the works. JayG would know more about this. Don't get too happy yet, as the price for the recordings runs between $25 and $35 (depending on whether there is one cd or two). They haven't all been loved by the critics, but I know that M1 and M2 have gotten very good reviews.

With prices like that, it would make this one of the most expensive cycles around, at approximately $250-300, depending on what else is included (lieder, etc.).

Btw, the Andrew Litton/Dallas SO with Petra Lang Mahler 2 is also on hybrid SACD, and that is an excellent recording. Not all of the Litton Mahler is on SACD, though.

So, as the technology improves the best Mahler cycle is probably still in the future.
post #797 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Scott,

That's the question! Is the Chailly set going to be issued in SACD or not?!? The 3rd and 9th have been released in Hybrid SACD; whether the others will be released or remastered into the format is anyone's guess.
Ah ok, i had heard this was coming, but haven't seen any nitty gritty details yet. Also I believe the 8th in the series was DVD-A, so the series so far has been a mixed bag formatwise (well all availble on CD anyway).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
As for the MTT, that is a complete cycle that is being issued piece by piece, and they all have been issued in hybrid SACD format under the San Francisco Symphony label. According to what I have read, the latest in the can is Symphony 7, but that has not yet been released. So far, Symphonies 1,2,3,4,6,9 have been released in the format that I know of. I would imagine that 5,7,8, and Das Lied von der Erde are probably in the works. JayG would know more about this. Don't get too happy yet, as the price for the recordings runs between $25 and $35 (depending on whether there is one cd or two). They haven't all been loved by the critics, but I know that M1 and M2 have gotten very good reviews.
Yes, I've seen mixed things about the MTT, so haven't gone out on a limb and tried any of the discs yet, are there any stand-outs in the bunch so far?

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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
With prices like that, it would make this one of the most expensive cycles around, at approximately $250-300, depending on what else is included (lieder, etc.).

Btw, the Andrew Litton/Dallas SO with Petra Lang Mahler 2 is also on hybrid SACD, and that is an excellent recording. Not all of the Litton Mahler is on SACD, though.

So, as the technology improves the best Mahler cycle is probably still in the future.
The Litton is one I have heard good things about, that is on the list of things to get.

Scott
post #798 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
I've seen mixed things about the MTT, so haven't gone out on a limb and tried any of the discs yet, are there any stand-outs in the bunch so far?
I've only heard M1 so far, and I really like it.
post #799 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Food for thought.........
I would like to point out a certain "tendency" among professional reviewers and individuals to be very excited and highly praise new Cds/sets and then several years later when a proper perspective sets in "perhaps" they don't hold up as well as originally thought vs competition.

Part of this is the "new" factor and being first to own and say something is good (same thing happens all the time with audio gear, FOTM etc) So just a bit of caution should be exercised before plunking down large sum of money on the newest Mahler set etc.

A safer and cheaper route is to get the tried and proven reference sets of any composer and let things settle down and have some perspective before buying newest sets. For instance lots of buzz on new MTT, Geilen, Chailly sets but 5-10 years from now may not hold up as well in retrospect.
post #800 of 3714
DA,
I cannot believe you are cautioning us to spend less money! what is going on?

Btw, I agree with you about the critics. Also, the best performances with the best sound are always in the future.
post #801 of 3714
One could even argue that this would applied to the tried and true, "new" is relative to the listener, no?

Scott
post #802 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Food (continued)
Just as an example the recent Abbado/DG (live) Mahler 2nd was hyped by a couple different professional reviewers as a reference........so like a fool I puchased this and was un-impressed, not even best 2nd by Abbado! It was quickly sold used while demand was high.

Now a year later the "buzz" has subsided to deafening silence
post #803 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottder
One could even argue that this would applied to the tried and true, "new" is relative to the listener, no?

Scott
Yes to someone new to classical all recordings are a new experience, but I think reviews of older established performances are more reliable (passage of time and perspective) vs the newest "hot" performances with all the buzz
post #804 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Yes to someone new to classical all recordings are a new experience, but I think reviews of older established performances are more reliable (passage of time and perspective) vs the newest "hot" performances with all the buzz
But also some estabilished performances become so engrained by reviewers, a newer performance doesn't get a fair shake. As long as the are still in pront though, it's all good!

Scott
post #805 of 3714

How do you decide to buy a new recording?

Critical buzz is always flawed: some critics are biased towards some artists and prejudiced against others. It's hard to sample a recording to see if you like it before buying. I go to Tower here in the city to listen to the recordings that they have made available for listening, but I rarely find something that I am interested in there and more rarely have the time to sit and listen for more than a few minutes in the store. I listened to Boulez's Bartok piano concertos there for about 1/2 hour and decided to buy it only to find that I just feel icky everytime I listen to it! I also find myself relying more and more on the radio and things like "musical choice" on cable tv. AOL radio also becomes a way to sample music, but they really push all of the bmg catalogue. So I rely on that, word of mouth and the very imperfect critics. Just look at the difference in appraisal of the Simon Rattle M8. Gramophon magazine thinks it's the greatest M8 ever made (recording of the year?) while Classicstoday thinks it is highly overrated. Unless I can pick that up at yourmusic, I'm passing until the dust settles (though it is on sale for about $8.00 at Tower this week). It was much easier deciding to buy Harnoncourt's Bruckner 5 -- I just love his work so it was a no brainer for me.
post #806 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
It was much easier deciding to buy Harnoncourt's Bruckner 5 -- I just love his work so it was a no brainer for me.
I just bought a whole set of Bruckner now you're making me buy more, damn you woman!
post #807 of 3714
Relax, I'm only recommending one recording! However, I am considering Harnoncourt's other recording of Bruckner's 9th also on RCA.
post #808 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Relax, I'm only recommending one recording! However, I am considering Harnoncourt's other recording of Bruckner's 9th also on RCA.
Just pulling your leg, I will have to look into that Harnoncourt B5, still wrapping my head around his Mozart Requeim.

Scott
post #809 of 3714
Mahler 9-Berlin phil & Barbirolli
Mahler 5 Maazel and Vienna phil...i love Rattles version as well, but the only thing that confuses me(as a percussionist)is why the Whip/slapstick sounds like a wood block?!?!
post #810 of 3714

For SACD Fans

MTT M9 Hybrid SACD on sale for $9.99 at tower.com.

I kid you not.
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