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post #766 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
I was thinking of Klemperer for 2; any other no-brainers to round out my list?
2. What is everyone's favorite version of 10? I've been reluctant to explore it since there are alternative completions - which is considered the best?

1) Get the Klemperer, it's wonderfully done, and fits on one disc (yet it doesn't feel rushed), not a barn-buster in the finale, but solid all-around.

2) I like Rattle's 10th, but I have heard few others.
post #767 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
Here's what I have now:

1. Abravanel, MTT;
2. Abravanel, Kaplan (2003);
3. Abravanel, Boulez;
4. Reiner, Abravanel; Davis;
5. Bernstein, Abravanel;
6. Zander;
7. Abravanel, Levine;
8. Abravanel;
9. Jesus-Lopez;
10. Don't have
Das Lied: Davis
My top picks to date:

1)Bernstein/DG + Kubelik/DG Originals + Horenstein/Unicorn
2)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/CSO/London + Rattle/EMI
3)Horenstein/Unicorn (Brilliant Classics) + Bernstein/Sony
4)Szell/Sony + Bernstein/DG + Reiner/RCA
5)Bernstein/DG + Barbirolli/EMI GROTC + Sinopoli/DG
6)Mitropoulos/Great Conductors 20th + Bernstein/Sony + Szell/Sony
7)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/London + Abbado/CSO/DG
8)Horenstein/BBC Legends + Solti/Decca Legends + (new Kent Nagano????)
9)Ancerl/Supraphon Gold + Karajan/DG Karajan Gold (live) + Bernstein/BPO/DG (live)
10)Rattle/EMI

I would strongly recommend buying Bernstein/Sony complete set either used or new, then supplement with 2CD Bernstein/DG Panorama 1,5 set and you will have the best complete Mahler set by one conductor (IMO of course) for very reasonable price.

Also pick up the Szell/Sony 4 + 6 CDs, both budget price 1CD versions that compete with any version ever made.
post #768 of 3714
My top picks so far:

1) MTT / SFS + Bernstein / DG
2) MTT / SFS
3) Litton / Dallas + Chailly / Concertgebouw
4) MTT / SFS
5) Barbirolli / EMI + Bernstein / DG
6) Karajan / BPO + MTT / SFS
7) MTT / LSO
8) Solti / Decca
9) MTT / SFS + Karajan / DG Gold + Chailly / Concertgebouw

-Jay
post #769 of 3714
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Originally Posted by JayG
3) Litton / Dallas + Chailly / Concertgebouw
That Chailly 3rd is great for everyone, and a MUST for anyone with an SACD player.
post #770 of 3714
I think for complete sets, the Kubelik either on audite (live performances which although not completely perfect have wonderful tension) or DG are easily the equal of the Sony Bernstein.

For individual performances, I just would add the Litton/Dallas for the M2 especially in the SACD format with slightly better sound than the stereo (more dying notes on SACD).

Chailly really owns the M3 along with Bernstein on either Sony or DG. I haven't heard the Litton, but I love his Resurrection, so eventually I'll probably get it too.

As for the M7, the Symphony of the Night, it's also soon to be released or just released by MTT with the SFSO, and if the performance I heard is anything to go by, it's going to be a reference or close to reference recording, otherwise the Bernstein Sony is the way to go.

The Kubelik Audite M8, just released on SACD is really interesting as it has multiple versions of the recording showing how they remastered to improve sound quality.

One more vote for the the SACD Chailly/Concertgebouw M9 which is also excellent and the Ancerl.

Has anyone actually listened to the Rattle M8? It's received tons of praise from Gramophon, if not that much from American critics.
post #771 of 3714
I'm sure I've posted this already somewhere in this thread... and I don't think it's changed, so here we go:

M1: Solti/Chicago/London - Walter/Columbia/CBS
M2: Slatkin/St. Louis/Telarc
M3: Lenny/NYPhil/Sony - Solti/??/London (70's)
M4: Reiner/Chicago/RCA
M5: Levine/Chicago/RCA (70's - AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS THIS??**) - Sinopoli/Philharmonia/DG
M6: Karajan/Berlin/DG - Sinopoli/Philharmonia/DG
M7: Levine/Chicago/RCA - Abbado/Chicago/DG
M8: Solti/Chicago/London (70's)
M9: Giulini/Chicago/DG (70's) - Dohnanyi/Cleveland (Live concert, dont' have his recording yet)
M10: Rattle or Chailly, both are good.

**So, really, no one else has Levine's Maher 5th? In my opinion he gets everything right. The fire of the first two movements, the jovality of the 3rd movement, the aching beauty of the Adagietto and the triumph of the last movement. Every other recording I've heard is lacking in one area or another. Sinopoli comes close, it's an amazing recording, but there are a few points that it seems like he's about to lose control. And Sinopoli's moaning really does detract at points.

Here's a little review of the Levine Remastered issue, though I have the original RCA Red Seal cd..

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...music&n=507846

-jar
post #772 of 3714
Okay, amazon one click strikes again. ($8.80, "like new")

I've just ordered the James Levine M5, remastered. Your link shows no availability and someone waiting.
post #773 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Okay, amazon one click strikes again. ($8.80, "like new")

I've just ordered the James Levine M5, remastered. Your link shows no availability and someone waiting.
I'm going to have to find time to listen to this again, it's been a while

-jar
post #774 of 3714
Here's the link for the remastered recording at amazon.

Oops! apparently I've just ordered the Mahler 4! I'd better get reading glasses. those covers looked the same.
post #775 of 3714
I've heard a recording of the broadcast of the M8 with Levine and the BSO, he handled it wonderfully. Need to go see him perform it again later this year.
post #776 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
For individual performances, I just would add the Litton/Dallas for the M2 especially in the SACD format with slightly better sound than the stereo (more dying notes on SACD).
i second this recommendation - an excellent performance coupled with the best recording i have heard from redbook to date. the sense of depth and perspective over my k501s is simply mind-blowing.
post #777 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
My top picks to date:

1)Bernstein/DG + Kubelik/DG Originals
2)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/CSO/London + Rattle/EMI
3)Horenstein/Unicorn (Brilliant Classics) + Bernstein/Sony
4)Szell/Sony + Bernstein/DG + Reiner/RCA
5)Bernstein/DG + Barbirolli/EMI GROTC
6)Mitropoulos/Great Conductors 20th + Bernstein/Sony + Szell/Sony
7)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/London + Abbado/CSO/DG
8)Horenstein/BBC Legends + Solti/Decca Legends + (new Kent Nagano????)
9)Ancerl/Supraphon Gold + Karajan/DG Karajan Gold (live)
10)Rattle/EMI

I would strongly recommend buying Bernstein/Sony complete set either used or new, then supplement with 2CD Bernstein/DG Panorama 1,5 set and you will have the best complete Mahler set by one conductor (IMO of course) for very reasonable price.

Also pick up the Szell/Sony 4 + 6 CDs, both budget price 1CD versions that compete with any version ever made.
I concur with this list owning most of them myself. I believe the Szell Mahler 4 is one of the greatest CDs I have ever heard. Am listening to Bernstein Mahler 6 as I write with my new gear burned in and am blown away. When I get back from my tour (Paris and Vienna ) in a few weeks, I am going to have to buy all the Bernstein set.

I will be back and contributing again after being very absent for the past 5 or 6 weeks. I have come across the finest chamber music recording that I have ever heard which I want to start a thread on. This recording is masterfully engineered and is absolutely mind boggling as far as the precision, artistry and musicality is concerned. It will be a major area for us to explore, but I don't want to start it and not be able to participate. Plus, I want to contemplate words as I sip wine on the Champs-Elysees next week.

Cheers,
dshea
post #778 of 3714
Has anyone listened to the Yoel Levi/Atlanta SO Mahler 2,4 and 6? They are highly rated, but I don't know much about them.
post #779 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Has anyone listened to the Yoel Levi/Atlanta SO Mahler 2,4 and 6? They are highly rated, but I don't know much about them.
These were discussed in this thread previously, I had all three you mention but I don't like Levi for Mahler (despite what you read in classics today) and the 6th has such overblown sound effects (telarc strikes again) when I first played the hammer blows I thought my expensive speakers were damaged!

These versions on the surface sound good but are pretty faces with no heart or soul......I find them lacking any real sense of passion or energy compared to my references.
post #780 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
My questions:

1. What (besides 10) am I obviously missing? I was thinking of Klemperer for 2; any other no-brainers to round out my list?
2. What is everyone's favorite version of 10? I've been reluctant to explore it since there are alternative completions - which is considered the best?
For 10, no perfect version yet but I'd pick Sanderling and Morris. IMHO Chailly is too timid, Rattle/BPO is rather dull. Sanderling is less shocking but well balanced and Morris transfers some grotesque feeling but being less perfect.

I'd like to list my picks for other symphonies quickly.
No.1 - Mitropoulos/NYP 51, Horenstein/LSO, Morris/New PO
No.2 - Walter/VPO, Walter/NYP, Metha/VPO, Klemperer/BRSO
No.3 - Mitropoulos/Koeln RSO, Nagano/DSO Berlin, Chailly/RCO, Horenstein/LSO
No.4 - Abbado/VPO, Walter/VPO/Gueden
No.5 - Mitropoulos/NYP, Bertini/Koeln RSO, Bernstein/VPO (London live, Pirate version)
No.6 - Mitropoulos/NYP (NYP broadcasts), Bernstein/VPO, Horenstein/Stockholm PO
No.7 - Zender/Saarbrucken RSO, Horenstein/New PO, Chailly/RCO
No.8 - Horenstein/LSO
No.9 - Karajan/BPO (Live version), Bernstein/BPO, Mitropoulos/VPO
DLVDE - Tennstedt/LPO, Klemperer/New PO, Walter/VPO (Decca version)
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