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post #721 of 3714

MTT conducts Mahler 7 for a transcendant experience

Well, I've just come from Carnegie Hall, and all I can say is that if MTT gets the M7 recorded in as fine a fashion as it was performed tonight he will have a reference recording. It was absolutely stunning in its structure, clarity, pacing and mood. He really owned Carnegie Hall by the end of the concert. The audience was rapt, and despite a long period of time (at least 78 minutes) there wasn't a cell phone that went off and everyone did their best to keep coughing at a minimum. It is a night that I will never forget. No encores (mahler is very exhausting), but standing ovations and at least 4 curtain calls.

I cannot say enough about the high professionalism of this orchestra. MTT has them in excellent form and they sound wonderful. The first part of the program was a performance of MTT's own Poems of Emily Dickinson put to music. Barbara Bonney sang and she did a great job on very demanding music. I liked them, but most of the audience was restive and although Ms. Bonney was singing in English, if the text of the poems hadn't been in the playbill I wouldn't have understood more than a word here and there. The music is very abstract but there are hints of references to other works (including Mahler and even Leonard Bernstein) that peek out. The applause at the end was more than polite, but nowhere near the enthusiastic level for Andsnes the night before or the rapturous applause after the Mahler. Then again, I doubt that these pieces are on the same level as the Mahler either, as good as they are.
post #722 of 3714
Bunnyears,

Sounds like it was a wonderful program. I believe I'll be going to see Christoph von Dohnányi with the BSO doing M1, not sure what kind Mahlerian he is, but I guess I'll find out! (I still kick myself for not going to see Levine do the M8, was supposed to be splendid!).

Scott
post #723 of 3714
I'm not sure, but I believe Dohnanyi is supposed to be quite good with Mahler, so it should be a great evening. I'm sorry I didn't also buy the tickets last Sunday for Maris Janssons and the Vienna Philharmonic doing the Titan. I already had the tickets for the R2 and MTT's M7, so I just couldn't do 3 heavy concerts in 6 days. Too much even for me. I don't know how the musicians do it.
post #724 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
I'm not sure, but I believe Dohnanyi is supposed to be quite good with Mahler, so it should be a great evening. I'm sorry I didn't also buy the tickets last Sunday for Maris Janssons and the Vienna Philharmonic doing the Titan. I already had the tickets for the R2 and MTT's M7, so I just couldn't do 3 heavy concerts in 6 days. Too much even for me. I don't know how the musicians do it.
I have been tempted to pick up the M1 with Dohnanyi and the CSO, but I think I just want to go in with an open mind, being my first live Mahler performance.

Scott
post #725 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Bunnyears,

Sounds like it was a wonderful program. I believe I'll be going to see Christoph von Dohnányi with the BSO doing M1, not sure what kind Mahlerian he is, but I guess I'll find out! (I still kick myself for not going to see Levine do the M8, was supposed to be splendid!).

Scott
Scott, I've heard Dohnanyi perform the M1 a few times with the Cleveland Orchestra, and I'll just say that he's a fine Mahlerian.. he won't shock or surprise you, he's not a conductor that gets in the way of the music.. he simply lets it speak for himself. In his years at Cleveland, that was pretty much his approach to all the concerts I attended that were conducted by him.. somewhat conservative, letting the composer speak through him, not in spite of him. There were times when I wished he'd let the orchestra rip a little more, but he knew he had one of the most powerful orchestras in the world, he usually saved their power for when he really thought it was needed. It always was exciting when a guest conductor would come in and let the orchestra go full throttle.. like when Salonen conducted Messaien's TURANGALILA SYMPHONY.. whoa.. I don't think I had ever heard the orchestra play more loudly! Of course, that's not to say Doc *never* let them go.. but he just seemed to have a very, very tempered control over dynamics.. I think maybe he saw levels of dynamics that were between the levels of other conductors. And be prepared to hear detail like you've never heard... he was the master of detail.

Anyway, I'll be very interested to hear your impressions of Dohnanyi.. I wonder if he'll be a little less conservative now that he's the guest conductor.
I know there's only so much a guest conductor can do with an orchestra, but if his years in Cleveland are any indication, you're in for a treat.

-jar
post #726 of 3714
Masonjar,

Good news is, the Boston classical station will be playing this concert live on the air, I need to get some sort of reciever hooked to my PC for recording.

Scott

PS - It is being paired with Birtwistle's "The Shadow of the Night"
post #727 of 3714
Scott, go in with an open mind. It's Mahler and we love him, so whatever the conductor does or doesn't do you will have a great time. There is nothing so breath taking as a live performance, and you can only be a Mahler-virgin once in your life. Relax! You are in for a real treat.
post #728 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
I have been tempted to pick up the M1 with Dohnanyi and the CSO, but I think I just want to go in with an open mind, being my first live Mahler performance.

Scott
Good choice.. just go and enjoy the music.. and if you really enjoy the concert, then buy the cd.

I always made it a point to avoid listening to any pieces I was going to see live, sometimes for several months before the concert, if I knew I was going in advance that is. When I was in college, sometimes tickets had a way of falling into my lap. Nothing like being able to see the Cleveland Orchestra for $2!

And actually, if the performance totally blows me away, I avoid listening to the work after as well. After having my musical world shaken by Mark Wigglesworth's version of the M10 (Cooke) about 3 years ago, I have not yet listened to that work again.

-jar
post #729 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Scott, go in with an open mind. It's Mahler and we love him, so whatever the conductor does or doesn't do you will have a great time. There is nothing so breath taking as a live performance, and you can only be a Mahler-virgin once in your life. Relax! You are in for a real treat.
"Mahler-virgin" ! I love it. My first Mahler concert was a performance of the M2 done by a local orchestra, well actually, local orchestras.. In quiet Northeastern Ohio, the Mansfield Symphony and the Ashland Symphony combined forces to perform the M2 in Mansfield's Rensaissance Theatre under the baton of Jeff Holland Cook. I have to say that it was quite incredible hearing the music live for the first time! I don't remember how old I was, probably 15 or 16 at the time, but I had been listening to the 2nd for probably a year or so by then so I knew it well. It was just magical to finally hear those notes floating through the air, and being in the same space as the musicans playing them.

I guess with the coming of the digtal age in the 80's, there was a pretty big Mahler resurgence, but it was still kind of surprising that a small local orchestra would take on such a big piece, but they did a decent job.. and a year or so later, they even tackled the M6!

-jar
post #730 of 3714
I may give it a few brief listens before I go to the show, maybe traverse a few of the recordings I have. I have no idea what to expect from the Birtwhistle. I had such a wonderful time seeing the BSO do Babbitt/Sibelius. The BSO has a wonderful Cellist, don't know what her name is, made the begining of the Sibelius 4th very engaging.

Now to find someone to babysit our son for the evening.

Scott
post #731 of 3714
In order to keep my Mahler high going on, I broke the seal on the Chailly Mahler 9 (SACD) today. That is also a very commanding performance. I was totally blown away by how amazing it sounds in surround sound. It's not the same as being in a concert hall unless you are in the center of the orchestra. Btw, there was a review of MTT's handling of the M7 in the SF Chronicle which you can read here. Amazingly, the reviewer doesn't seem to like the M7 particularly. He wasn't in the hall with me last night. If he had been there, he'd be loving the M7 today.
post #732 of 3714
(dshea just acquired an Apogee Mini-Dac off of Audiogon and wonders what Karajan's Mahler 9 will sound like? )

Plus, Mahler should never be this far back, we needed a bump just for no other reason than to say, "We love Mahler"

dshea
post #733 of 3714
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Originally Posted by dshea_32665
(dshea just acquired an Apogee Mini-Dac off of Audiogon and wonders what Karajan's Mahler 9 will sound like? )

Plus, Mahler should never be this far back, we needed a bump just for no other reason than to say, "We love Mahler"

dshea
Send me an Apogee Mini-Dac and I'll tell ya how it sounds!

I'm looking forwward to the concert at the end of April.

Scott
post #734 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by dshea_32665
(dshea just acquired an Apogee Mini-Dac off of Audiogon and wonders what Karajan's Mahler 9 will sound like? )

Plus, Mahler should never be this far back, we needed a bump just for no other reason than to say, "We love Mahler"

dshea
I'd rather know what Bernstein's M9 would sound like or Ancerl's.

How about some discussion of the best recordings of Mahler Lieder? I have some done by Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau and they are awesome.
post #735 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
I'd rather know what Bernstein's M9 would sound like or Ancerl's.

How about some discussion of the best recordings of Mahler Lieder? I have some done by Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau and they are awesome.


Dame Janet Baker


I may need to buy another copy of this, I had a CD-ROM door close on it, and it got a nasty gouge on the disk.

I also recently purchased "Des Knaben Wunderhorn" by Chailly, Barbara Bonney, Sara Fulgoni, Matthias Goerne, and Gösta Winbergh.



Scott
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