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post #3436 of 3714
I like the Haitink recording for headphone listening.

However, the lead female vocalist in part five could have been better selected. She could have used some better presense.

Some of the children's choir stuff sticks out, but it is nice to have them there.

Plus, it isn't a perfect spot on performance, which to me makes it sound a bit more real and the way it is recorded sound more like I am there than obviously listening to headphones.

The Solti is too much in your face and maybe a bit too thick - you miss a lot of nuance and treble. The Haitink could maybe use a bit more of the very lowest end of teh spectrum.
post #3437 of 3714
The time of posting favorite performances is here again:

1.Bernstein (Sony)
2.Solti with the LSO (DECCA)
3.López-Cobos (Telarc)
4.Abbado with the VPO (DG)
5.Chailly (DECCA)
6.Bernstein (DG)
7.Barenboim (Warner)-still need to listen to the Chailly one
8.Tennstedt (EMI)-very tough choice, since the other recordings that I have are Bernstein (Sony), Bertini (EMI), Chailly (DECCA) and Solti (DECCA)
9.Bernstein (Sony)-seriously, I listened to Karajan's live one, Chailly's, Abbado's and etc, though not the Barenboim's one and Bernstein's still remains my absolute favorite.
DLVDE. Need to acquire more copies of this one, have only two. Bertini's and Reiner's and I must say I like Bertini's a bit more.
post #3438 of 3714
Is anyone else disturbed by the general slowing down of Mahler performances in recent times? If the trend continues, I'll actually be dead before finishing an M9.
post #3439 of 3714
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The time of posting favorite performances is here again:
Since you liked several Bernstein performances, I wonder if you might like Bernstein's Vienna recording with Fischer-Dieskau and King--it's definitely one of the more overtly emotional performances out there. It's the performance I return to the most...
post #3440 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Facade19 View Post
The time of posting favorite performances is here again:

1.Bernstein (Sony)
2.Solti with the LSO (DECCA)
3.López-Cobos (Telarc)
4.Abbado with the VPO (DG)
5.Chailly (DECCA)
6.Bernstein (DG)
7.Barenboim (Warner)-still need to listen to the Chailly one
8.Tennstedt (EMI)-very tough choice, since the other recordings that I have are Bernstein (Sony), Bertini (EMI), Chailly (DECCA) and Solti (DECCA)
9.Bernstein (Sony)-seriously, I listened to Karajan's live one, Chailly's, Abbado's and etc, though not the Barenboim's one and Bernstein's still remains my absolute favorite.
DLVDE. Need to acquire more copies of this one, have only two. Bertini's and Reiner's and I must say I like Bertini's a bit more.
Nice list, only thing that raises my eyebrow is the Mahler 3rd choice........I have not heard any Mahler by Lopez-Cobos can't make any direct comments, just surprised.

For DLVDE you must get the Klemperer/EMI GROTC, very cheap used at Amazon. I have most of the famous ones but this version has never been seriously challenged for me, I am very strong advocate for this version
post #3441 of 3714
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Is anyone else disturbed by the general slowing down of Mahler performances in recent times? If the trend continues, I'll actually be dead before finishing an M9.
Tyson I have rasied this point many times in this thread using Mahler 9th as an example. The big slow down picked up steam late 1980s with Bernstein/DG 9th (not Sony/NYPO) and now most new 9ths are 2CD version and time in at @90 minutes.

Back in 1960-70 most versions were @80 minutes and the famous Walter/VPO from 1938 was 70 minutes
post #3442 of 3714
Been awhile and some changes.
1st Solti/LSO Decca
2nd Solit/CSO Decca
3rd Levine/CSO RCA
4th Maazel/VPO/CBS
5th Levine/Philadelphia/RCA
6th Boulez/VPO/DG
7th Abbado/Lucerne/EuroArts (dvd)
8th Solti/CSO/Decca
9th Bernstein/DG
10th Inbal/Frankfurt RSO/Denon
DLVDE Walters/Miller/Hafliger/Columbia SO/CBS
post #3443 of 3714
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Been awhile and some changes.
1st Solti/LSO Decca
2nd Solit/CSO Decca
3rd Levine/CSO RCA
4th Maazel/VPO/CBS
5th Levine/Philadelphia/RCA
6th Boulez/VPO/DG
7th Abbado/Lucerne/EuroArts (dvd)
8th Solti/CSO/Decca
9th Bernstein/DG
10th Inbal/Frankfurt RSO/Denon
DLVDE Walters/Miller/Hafliger/Columbia SO/CBS
If you are a Levine fan I really like his CSO Mahler 4th one of the very best I have heard:



The Maazel 4th is a mixed bag for me, love vocals of Kathleen Battle but not the broad tempos used by Maazel.....critics love this version

Like to see the Solti/CSO Mahler 2nd on the list, huge fan of this version
post #3444 of 3714
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If you are a Levine fan I really like his CSO Mahler 4th one of the very best I have heard:



The Maazel 4th is a mixed bag for me, love vocals of Kathleen Battle but not the broad tempos used by Maazel.....critics love this version

Like to see the Solti/CSO Mahler 2nd on the list, huge fan of this version
The Mahler 2 Solti/CSO is on my list
Yes, I'm becoming a fan of Levine's Mahler ever since I got the 3rd. The final movement actually brings me to tears. Bernstein's NYP 3rd, even in it's sacd re re release has now been replaced by Levines CSO 3rd.
post #3445 of 3714
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Nice list, only thing that raises my eyebrow is the Mahler 3rd choice........I have not heard any Mahler by Lopez-Cobos can't make any direct comments, just surprised.

For DLVDE you must get the Klemperer/EMI GROTC, very cheap used at Amazon. I have most of the famous ones but this version has never been seriously challenged for me, I am very strong advocate for this version
DarkAngel, trust me on the Lopez-Cobos one. I have the Bernstein and Chailly recordings, and believe me, in the Lopez-Cobos recording there is magic, for lack of better words.
post #3446 of 3714
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DarkAngel, trust me on the Lopez-Cobos one. I have the Bernstein and Chailly recordings, and believe me, in the Lopez-Cobos recording there is magic, for lack of better words.
OK I will check it out.........
I have several Levi/Telarc Mahler symphonies and some of them are very good performances like his Mahler 6th and they do have very good sound.
I wouldn't rank any of them in my top 5 for each symphony however
post #3447 of 3714
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DarkAngel, trust me on the Lopez-Cobos one. I have the Bernstein and Chailly recordings, and believe me, in the Lopez-Cobos recording there is magic, for lack of better words.
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OK I will check it out.........
I have several Levi/Telarc Mahler symphonies and some of them are very good performances like his Mahler 6th and they do have very good sound.
I wouldn't rank any of them in my top 5 for each symphony however
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I've been living with Lopez-Cobos M3 and now it's really become one of my favorite M3 recordings. If you can find it, grab it! It's great.


I recommended the Lopez-Cobos Mahler 3rd way back in 2006. With the prices so low back then, I'm surprised you weren't able to pick one up.

I also love the Levi Mahler 6th, 2nd, and 4th especially which are the standouts from his Mahler recordings (don't know if he has a complete cycle).

Meanwhile, DH has given Zinman's (!) new M6 a very positive review. The only fault he finds is that he put the Andante in the 2nd position, which is an automatic grade deduction for Hurwitz.
post #3448 of 3714
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Is anyone else disturbed by the general slowing down of Mahler performances in recent times? If the trend continues, I'll actually be dead before finishing an M9.
It's not just Mahler: everything seems to go slower. Maybe that's why I'm so drawn to conductors like Paul Paray, Antal Dorati, Igor Markevitch andtheir likes who in general took peppier tempos. A lot of young conductors seem to think that if they go slower it makes their interpretation more meaningful and serious. More often it makes the music boring. That's why I've never taken to Klemperer Brahms. It's rated so highly, but I like the fleetness of Mackerras. As to Mahler, I guess I find conductors in the middle of the pack easier to listen to. Too slow and it dies, too fast and it seems superficial.
post #3449 of 3714
Good News! Ivan Fischer's recording of the M4 with the Budapest Festival Orchestra will be released here on April 14, 2009. It's already gotten excellent reviews in Europe.

Now if only he will relent, and record the remaining symphonies. I have heard the M1 in concert and it was wonderful and he has also conducted the 3rd and Das Lied von der Erde in concert. When he is ready I hope recordings of these symphonies, at least, will be made.

post #3450 of 3714
That's good news -- I really like his M2 and M6, and the sound is spectacular.

Now, to another matter...a friend recently took a trip home to Osaka, Japan to see his parents. While there, he happened upon the Osaka Orchestra, Eije Oue conducting a performance of the Mahler 5th. Given his outstanding recordings of M6 and Das Lied, Nobi was expecting something equally terrific. Alas, it was not. While the orchestra played superbly, the conducting was deathly dull, uninspired, and just not what it should have been. He was quite disappointed. The only good thing is that I finally got my own original copy of the 6th.
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