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post #331 of 3714

MTT's Mahler

Yes: MTT has highly detailed interpretations that can sometimes lose the big line of the work --- things can sound episodic. Also, lots of phrasing and character, which some believe may be excessive. A good example of his style when it works is his Mahler 1. His recent Mahler 4 has a really gorgeous 3rd movement that really compliments his style, too. I'm not so keen on his recent 3rd and 6th (which is actually a fairly straight reading). If you can find his older Mahler 3rd on CBS/Sony Classical with the London Symphony, it's worth getting. I like his Mahler 7 with the LSO on RCA, too.

--Andre
post #332 of 3714
Well I found his 3rd, but I guess that one is out of print and pricey.
post #333 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I haven't heard this, but see where Gilbert Kaplan (ex stockbroker who's only recording is Mahler 2) has recently done a new recording of Mahler 2 on DG that features latest thinking as a result of further Mahler research.

Mahler 2

Surprisingly it is mid price release, but 2CD version. We will have to see if lightning can strike twice.
DA,

Did you ever give this a listen?

Scott
post #334 of 3714
Thread Starter 
No, but do own Kaplan/Conifer Sym 2 which was his first version and only recording he ever made........have read that many think it is better than his newest remake so I haven't pursued it and just be happy with what I have now. I wonder how he pulled the strings to get LSO and Maureen Forrestor to perform instead of 3rd tier orchestra for his only recording????

Conifer
post #335 of 3714
I don't like Kaplan's first recording --- it was a bit too simple and heavy-handed. He's improved in the many years since: I heard him live a couple of years ago, and really enjoyed that performance. I haven't closely listened to his latest recording on DG yet.

--Andre
post #336 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Bumpies

Nothing new to report but have my eye on those new MTT versions, but
don't want to pay full price. If you have SACD these would really be tempting.
The 10/10 rating means little to me since last couple 10/10 rated CDs I purchased were underperformers in my book.

Any other peeps out there Mahler fans, give us your spin on things.

MTT
post #337 of 3714
Not sure about the MTT, but I may pick up the DG Kaplan soon, had a chance to hear a bit of it, enought to make me want to investigate it anyway, $14.99 isn't bad for a 2 SACD set either.

Scott
post #338 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottder
Not sure about the MTT, but I may pick up the DG Kaplan soon, had a chance to hear a bit of it, enought to make me want to investigate it anyway, $14.99 isn't bad for a 2 SACD set either.
I've been listening to the newer Kaplan all morning, and it stands toe to toe with Klemperer, which has been my choice for a while now. It's pretty even handed like Klemperer's in some ways. I'm going to start comparing them Movement by Movement. I believe Kaplan is from a somewhat modified score, though frankly to my ear, I can't really see a difference. Though I am sure some more astute than I would notice. The Kaplan recoridng quality is aboslutely top notch (it's SACD, I'd hope it is ). I think that is the one point where it wins out over Klemperer, but that's to be expected with over 40 years between them (if anything it says something about the Klemperer piece and how well it's stood up, and how good a job EMI did with the remaster).

*now prods others to give this a try* and yes it's worth it even if you don't have SACD, i'm listening at work and the CD layer is equally wonderful.
Scott
post #339 of 3714
Deutsche Grammophon just released a live recording of Mahlers 2nd from last year's Lucerne Festival. Abbado conducting the then newly (re-)founded Lucerne Festival Orchestra.
Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet but will do so quite soon. Might be another version to go for (as the orchestra is absolutely stunning and Abbado by now really knows his Mahler). Already got Klemperer, Inbal and Kaplan (1st recording). Btw: MTT's 6th is great. But so is Zander's with the splendid Philharmonia...
post #340 of 3714
...so many posts! A couple of quick thoughts, and I am sorry if this has been stated or covered already.

First thought: Boulez has done some fine recordings of select Mahler symphonies. He is superb at getting those inner voices out and the countrpoint with just the right balance.

Second thought: Abbado's live recording of 9th with the BPO in 1999 and the 3rd with the BPO at the Royal Festival Hall in October 1999 are really wonderful. I heard him do the 9th in Chicago a few years back...you could have heard a pin drop at the end.

Third thought: I have always like Haitink's Royal Concertgebouw set.
post #341 of 3714

Nice to find other mahler Fiends

I just skimmed this thread. I'll have to come back and take the time to read all of it.

I thought I would mention that the Litton/Delos 2nd is available as an SACD, sounds killer. I have five or six different CD versions of the 2nd and three more on LP.

There are three SACD's featuring San Francisco and Michael Tilson Thomas ( No 1, No 3, No 6). Thomas does a nice job, no new ground, but he is a craftsman. The sound is outstanding.

Last year I was lucky enough to hear NY (Maazel) perform the 2nd. I can actually die happy.
post #342 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yikes
I just skimmed this thread. I'll have to come back and take the time to read all of it.

I thought I would mention that the Litton/Delos 2nd is available as an SACD, sounds killer. I have five or six different CD versions of the 2nd and three more on LP.
I really love the Litton/Delos 2nd, great performance and has best sound quality I have heard for any CD version, tremendous powerful glorious Resurrection Climax........the clouds must part and sky open in wonderous revelation for this work to get my stamp of approval (no room for timid reserved conductors here)

I also have Litton's 3rd which I don't really rate in the top ranks, but many others do. May have to hear it again before writing it off for good.

Yikes
Need more info please, how do you rate/rank all your Mahler 2 versions?
post #343 of 3714
Darkangel,

Now you’ve got me thinking. Which is the best Mahler No 2? This week I will attempt to make a subjective determination.

Which is the best overall.
Which is the best performance.
Which is the best sonically.

Several versions that I own are MIA. Either in another rack/box or on loan. Here are the versions that I have rounded up so far.


Klemerer – philharmonia (1963) EMI 7243 5 67255 22
Klemerer – philharmonia (1963) EMI CDM 7 69662 2 Dutch Import
Klemerer – Chor und Symphonie orch des Beyerischen (1965) EMI 7243 5 66867 24
Abravanel _ Utah Sym Orch (1967) Silverline Classics DVD-Audio
Slatkin – Saint Louis Sym Orch (1983) Telarc CD 80081
Chailly – Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra (2001) Decca 289 470 283-2
Levi – Atlanta (2000) telarc
Litton – Dallas (98) Delos DE 3237 CD
Litton _ Dallas (98) Delos DS 3237 SACD
Kaplan – London (87)

Kaplan – Vienna the latest disc is on loan to my boss.
Mehta Teldec 94545 is hiding in one of my many racks.
Ozawa ? is also hiding
I probably have other versions as well. As far as the 2nd goes I am sort of like Mel Gibson’s character in Conspiracy Theory was with the book Catcher in the Rye.

I can tell you that my long time favorite has been the Slatkin Saint Louis version. It is the first version that I owned and I probably listened to it dozens if not hundreds of times before I purchased another version. I’ll listen to movements IV & V of all of these and then post my opinions.
post #344 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Yikes
You have a few Mahler 2nds there I haven't heard:
Slatkin
Chailly
Abravanel

Will be interesting to hear your impressions vs the ones I do have in your collection. Surprised not to see Bernstein or Rattle in that group, seems most people really like them.
post #345 of 3714
I found the Mehta.

I have the Bernstein Mahler cycle.

I need to go through all of my boxes to dig out all of my Mahler.
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