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post #2776 of 3684
11/18/06 at 8:41pm
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I can just picture speeding down the mountain side as the sounds of "Veni, Creator Spritus" cascade around me. Wouldn't that be cool....

I have a physical disabiity, so maybe not!

Has anyone heard Kubelik's complete DG set? His DG Mahler First and live efforts on Audite are very good, but has anyone invested in his full cycle? And any imput on Barbaroli as a Mahlerian?

Thanks,
Brian
I have Kubelik's set. Kubelik's M2 was the first lp of Mahler that I bought myself so I have a soft spot for the whole cycle. I happen to think it's one of the great cycles out there but the sound quality is not as great as the more modern sets (Bertini, Chailly, Gielen). Kubelik had great feeling for the lyrical qualities and the structure of the symphonies while never losing the ethnic character of some of the melodies. His brass section always sounded suitably sleazy in the right places and suitably brassy in other places. If the price is right, then you shouldn't pass it up.

Barbirolli was a great Mahlerian. My first Mahler concert was conducted by Barbirolli (in Boston with the BSO). I believe it was the 5th (I was very young and that's a long time ago). As I recall, he seemed almost asleep on the podium but then a little past the middle of the first movement in the most amazing fashion, he revived and everything just bloomed.
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post #2777 of 3684
11/20/06 at 11:38am
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Btw, for all Mahler lovers, here's a picture of Mt. Mahler in Colorado; the first mountain in America to be named for a composer.
Sounds like I'll have to make a pilgrimage at some point in my life..

Interesting tidbit, I got to know Tennstedt's Mahler 9th while riding with my parents through Glacier National Park in Montana back when I was in High School. Quite an experience.

-jar
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post #2778 of 3684
11/20/06 at 12:13pm
I would love to visit Mt. Mahler, though I think they should have picked an even larger mountain for him. Don't they know he wanted to encompass the whole world?

On a side note, I will be travelling to Europe this summer, and most of the time I will be staying in Salzburg. But I'm going to be doing a lot of travelling around while I'm there, and one place I absolutely want to go is Mahler's little house (shack? hut?) in the Austrian countryside where he composed most of his music. Although, once it hits me that I'm standing on the spot of origin for my favorite music in the entire world, I might have have a heart attack.

-Jay
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post #2779 of 3684
11/20/06 at 9:28pm
That's a great way to travel: in the footsteps of my favorite composer. I did the Mahler trip some 15 years ago and still remember it clearly. Although it's a daylong trip by train to Vienna, you simply must also go to his grave in the Grinzing cemetery. Alma isn't far off, either.

There was a book published many years ago for travelers wanting to follow in Elgar's footsteps. Someone should write one about Mahler.
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post #2780 of 3684
11/20/06 at 10:43pm


Calling on the Composer: A Guide to European Composer Houses and Museums
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post #2781 of 3684
11/21/06 at 1:52am
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Calling on the Composer: A Guide to European Composer Houses and Museums
It's now on my wish list! Thanks...

I wonder if this book has gravesites as well. It's interesting to visit the graves of great composers in Europe. Chopin in Paris was a recent one for me.

Bunny: Where did you hear about Mt. Mahler? I'd like to get some more information if I can. It may be a summer destinatiopn for me...
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post #2782 of 3684
11/21/06 at 2:05am
Here's a story about how the name came about. Mt. Mahler
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post #2783 of 3684
11/21/06 at 3:56am
MB: I will be spending at least 4 days in Vienna, so I will definitely make the trip to his grave. I'm hoping to get even more time there since I know 4 days won't even begin to be enough.

-Jay
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post #2784 of 3684
11/21/06 at 7:16pm
Has anyone seen this?

http://www.amazon.ca/Mahler-Gustav-N...?ie=UTF8&s=dvd

I rented it from Netflix and found it quite enjoyable. It's M1 set to nature scenes in Europe. Fun to watch, and the performance isn't bad.
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post #2785 of 3684
11/21/06 at 7:42pm
Just so long as you aren't buying it at that very inflated price! That Canadian price translates to roughly $50 US, and $50 for "not bad" is just too rich for my blood.
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post #2786 of 3684
11/21/06 at 9:19pm
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MB: I will be spending at least 4 days in Vienna, so I will definitely make the trip to his grave. I'm hoping to get even more time there since I know 4 days won't even begin to be enough.

-Jay
Wonderful! Then you can also get to Vienna's Zentralfriedhof (Central Cemetery) and see the gravesites of Beethoven, Brahms, Schmidt, Zemlinsky, and several dozen others. They're all located together. When you enter the cemetery you'll see a sign labeled "Musiker" (Musicians). Just follow it and you'll get to the area. It's a very humbling, touching experience.

When I made my pilgrimage to Grinzing to see Mahler's, I did something some people find obscene or just wrong, but I took a small lunch, my Walkman and the Maazel/Vienna Phil. recording of the Mahler 7th and sat at the foot of his grave listening. Then went for a favorite walk of Mahler, Brahms, and others thru the nearby Vienna Woods. Have a GREAT time! Now I wish I were going.
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post #2787 of 3684
11/21/06 at 10:02pm
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Wonderful! Then you can also get to Vienna's Zentralfriedhof (Central Cemetery) and see the gravesites of Beethoven, Brahms, Schmidt, Zemlinsky, and several dozen others. They're all located together. When you enter the cemetery you'll see a sign labeled "Musiker" (Musicians). Just follow it and you'll get to the area. It's a very humbling, touching experience.

When I made my pilgrimage to Grinzing to see Mahler's, I did something some people find obscene or just wrong, but I took a small lunch, my Walkman and the Maazel/Vienna Phil. recording of the Mahler 7th and sat at the foot of his grave listening. Then went for a favorite walk of Mahler, Brahms, and others thru the nearby Vienna Woods. Have a GREAT time! Now I wish I were going.
It seems to me that what you did was obviously a sign of respect and a personal way to pay tribute to his achievements. I don't think that should be considered obscene or wrong, and I would bet that Mahler would find it touching/flattering were he able to give his opinion. I am extremely excited to go. Classical music is my passion, but frequently it seems like it all originated in a time/place so distant from me. To be able to walk the paths that my idols walked, and see the houses they were born in, and the halls where their music was premeired, and stand at their final resting place is something I know I will remember and treasure forever.

-Jay
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post #2788 of 3684
11/21/06 at 10:58pm

Fitting

Again, I agree with Jay.

"My time will yet come" said Mahler. The fact that his music moved you to sit with him, if you will, and listen to his music with an esteemed Mahler Orchestra would be a fitting tribute to a great composer whose time is indeed here. I am sure he would have been pleased.
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post #2789 of 3684
11/22/06 at 11:22am
Heard Eschenbach conducting the M4 last night at Carnegie Hall. The play was, to my ears, a bit rough in places (botched portamento here, horn biff there) but the interpretation and performance were spot on. Eschenbach is a very serious Mahlerian but I thought the Philadelphia would sound a bit better. I'm no fan of their first violin -- at all. Perhaps that's why Eschenbach is leaving the orchestra so soon. Soprano Marisol Montalvo did have the requisite silvery quality and I'm sure in a studio recording she would be perfect. Unfortunately her voice was a bit too small for the hall. Evening opened with Berg's violin concerto which was very successful. I loved it more than the Mahler (imagine!), but poor hubby suffered through it. hehe.
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post #2790 of 3684
11/22/06 at 1:00pm
Did he enjoy the Mahler? I don't see the Berg concerto being that much harder on the ears. Probably one of the most accessible compositions to come out of the Second Viennese School.

-Jay
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