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post #2311 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I have finally purchased the Tennstedt/EMI set, I already have his 2CD set of M1,M2 plus a CD with M4 which I enjoy very much so I decided to take the total plunge

Price was pretty good at overstock.com $57.........have to keep digging into older sets as nothing done recently in modern sound appeals to me, great Mahler conducting appears to be a lost art now

It will be interesting to see if any of them move into your top 5

-jar
post #2312 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I have finally purchased the Tennstedt/EMI set, I already have his 2CD set of M1,M2 plus a CD with M4 which I enjoy very much so I decided to take the total plunge

Price was pretty good at overstock.com $57.........have to keep digging into older sets as nothing done recently in modern sound appeals to me, great Mahler conducting appears to be a lost art now
I think the old Tennstedt set is well worth investigating. Like Solti or Levine, the cycle has gotten pushed aside over the years, but they are actually quite remarkable. Tennstedt is especially a welcome antidote to the excessive refinement of Tilson Thomas and Abbado in recent years. In the end, Tennstedt wasn't too bothered if the cellos entered a bit raggedly, as long as they played their phrase like they meant it. One of the peaks of his cycle is definitely his Mahler 6 (which is also a little better recorded than the average for the cycle, IIRC). No discussion of best M6's is complete without Tennstedt. My overall 2 cents' worth:

1: Warm, bucolic
2: Broad, plays the extremes
3: I need to revisit this one, I vaguely recall it as being good.
4: Surges with energy in I, II; radiantly broad in III, IV
5: Good, but less energized and extreme than his live 1991 with RCOA
6: Passionate, alternately explosive and ardent
7: Good, but woolly recording vitiates drive and presence. This is a shame because the 1st mvt of 7 was Tennstedt's favorite Mahler movement.
8: Lyrical and radiant
9: Resigned and darker than many.

Some of the last recordings ever made in Kingsway Hall in London were in this cycle, and they sound good. Other recordings were made in Abbey Road Studio #1, which is pretty much the worst large studio often used for orchestral recordings.

Overall, though, a richly rewarding cycle that deserves to be remembered.

Mark
post #2313 of 3714
So many sets, so little time....or money....

post #2314 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
So many sets, so little time....or money....

I know what you mean. These sets are so expensive. Oh well.
post #2315 of 3714
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Originally Posted by milkpowder
I know what you mean. These sets are so expensive. Oh well.
Well individually they aren't bad (when you look at per CD cost), but there are just do darn many of them. Then explaining why you need yet another Mahler CD to your wife.
post #2316 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Then explaining why you need yet another Mahler CD to your wife.
Another Mahler CD, dear? Why no, of course it isn't! It's a recording of music by the great... Spanish composer... Pedro Mahler... no relation to that other Mahler.
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Levine/CSO/RCA 3rd
Was able to finally hear this performance, I was blown away by recently acquired Levine/RCA 4th which is in top 5 list, so was hoping for more of the same here.

Excellent overall with great performance and sound that comes very close to making top 5 list, but can't see taking away any existing 3rd on the list that Levine clearly would surpass, still would be in 6 or 7th spot no question at this point. Depending on your taste you may rank it even higher, a very balanced style that combines power, drama, finesse with Solti's CSO performing at peak level captured with very good sound. Personally prefer a bit more contrast and excitement as my list below for M3 indicates, which is why I give the Solti/CSO a slight edge overall:

Top 5 Mahler 3rds:
Horenstein/Unicorn
Bernstein/Sony
Barbirolli/BBC Legends
Kondrashin/Melodiya
Solti/London

Just outside this list I would include:
Salonen/Sony
Levine/RCA
Rattle/EMI
Kubelik/Audite
Boulez/DG
post #2318 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Well individually they aren't bad (when you look at per CD cost), but there are just do darn many of them. Then explaining why you need yet another Mahler CD to your wife.
Wives are so much more tolerant of "masculine" foibles. I'm still working on reasoned arguments to explain this to my husband. Any help in that department would be greatly appreciated.
post #2319 of 3714
Happy Easter/Passover everyone!

...good day to listen to Mahler's 2nd!
post #2320 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
Happy Easter/Passover everyone!

...good day to listen to Mahler's 2nd!
And to you, too, Doc!
post #2321 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
Happy Easter/Passover everyone!

...good day to listen to Mahler's 2nd!
Just did. Walter/Sony this time out. Now, on the the Foerster "Easter Eve" symphony, then back to M2 with Klempere/EMI.
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(Made a double-post and can't figure out how to delete it. Sorry.)
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It has taken me 12 years to warm up to Mahler. My entry point is M6. For the past few days, I've been comparing Oue's visceral immediacy to Jansons' more spacious rendition, and find both enjoyable. My impressions so far: Oue is superbly recorded and engineered, and fun to listen to, to be sure, but I find it somewhat saccharine, whereas the Jansons is less exciting but also less fatiguing. From recent posts, it appears that Oue is the categorical favorite among the Mahlerites here.

Also began listening to Abbado's M9 yesterday, and I'm enjoying that, too. Maybe I'll give M2 or 3 another try.

Not sure I'll ever take to M1 or M4, though.

Thanks for the informative thread.
post #2324 of 3714
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Originally Posted by ns6490
From recent posts, it appears that Oue is the categorical favorite among the Mahlerites here.
True, recent posts have mentioned him a lot, but don't read too much into that. I haven't heard any Oue Mahler yet, nor have many other Mahler fans, I'm sure. There are an abundance of excellent choices and no one conductor has the corner on the market.
post #2325 of 3714
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Originally Posted by ns6490
My impressions so far: Oue is superbly recorded and engineered, and fun to listen to, to be sure, but I find it somewhat saccharine, whereas the Jansons is less exciting but also less fatiguing.
The most easily available Mahler by Oue is his Das Lied with the Minneapolis SO, which is also an excellent recording. The M6 that he did is only available in Japan, so it is not as familiar to American and European listeners. I wouldn't call his M6 saccharine, though, as it's a very intense and adrenaline driven interpretation. As a matter of fact, I don't know any interpretations of the M6 that I would term saccharine. There are heart moving moments in that symphony, especially the 3rd (andante) movement, but not very much sweetness. I haven't heard the Janssons, so I can't comment on it, but I doubt that it's any sweeter or less sweet than any other interpretation. As for being more fatiguing, well, anything that touches the emotions deeply is going to be more difficult than something that does not. That's the nature of catharsis -- you live through the crisis (vicariously) experiencing the emotions of tragedy and catastrophe without actually experiencing the events -- and the relief of knowing it's not your own personal tragedy uplifts you and gives insight into your own existance. Exhausting -- certainly; saccharine? Hardly.

Abbado's Mahler, which is much more introspective and understated in it's emotional drive is termed by certain critics as "mahler-lite" but I'm not comfortable with that assessment either.
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