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post #1996 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Well, the 7th is a budget selection, but I have yet to hear a completely satisfactory recording of that symphony.
(Levine!)
(Levine!)
(Levine!)
(Levine!)

-jar (mr. subliminal)
post #1997 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
I bought it from Amazon jp - the secret is to find the "international address" link on the address page.
Yes! and the button that changes the form to international format is only labeled in Japanese.

I only found it by accident .
post #1998 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonjar
Interesting note about the Abbado CSO 1982 M1.

This is the first Compact Disc I ever heard. In fact, and I should let HFR Mark tell you this himself, but he bought this cd *before* he actually had a cd player. I just remember the magic of hearing the opening chord of the M1 eminate from the total silence.. it was pretty magical. I'm trying to remember what year that was, it was either 1983 or 1984.

and Mark, didn't you hear some kind of weird edit or "space change" somewhere near the beginning of that M1?

-jar
Mwahahaha! I was so eager to start my collection of CD's I bought my first couple of discs before I even had my hands on a machine. And I believe that was 1984. The odd edit is near the beginning of the third movement (Feierlich und gemessen). It is something I didn't notice at first, and it certainly sticks out more on headphones than over mains, but the movement starts off with just timpani and solo double bass. At 18 seconds into the movement, the timpani suddenly seem to drop back about several feet on the left rear of the soundstage and the bass moves a few feet closer in from the right side. Also what seems to have been room noise or tape flutter also stops abruptly. Since the symphony was ostensibly recorded digitally, I suspect that there was some kind of problem with the opening of the third movement which wasn't noticed during the recording sessions, forcing them to fall back to an analog rehearsal tape or earlier take which had a slightly different microphone setup. It's a minor flaw, I suppose. It used to irk me back when almost all my listening was over headphones and when the Abbado was the only M1 I had on CD.

Mark
post #1999 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Masonjar
(Levine!)
(Levine!)
(Levine!)
(Levine!)

-jar (mr. subliminal)
Agreed.
post #2000 of 3714
oh boy. Now I'm going to have to explain another Mahler recording in the house. I used to hide all of my new shoes and handbags. Now I've got to stow the recordings away out of sight and pretend that I've had them for "a long time." 0:-)
post #2001 of 3714
Well, I have just received this recording, ordered almost a month ago!

First reaction: James Judd conducts the Mahler Youth Orchestra in a tense, dramatic, angst ridden nail biting performance that puts the emphasis on the dissonant elements. Very Powerful.

There is some confusion as to the name of the orchestra which is also listed as the European Community Youth Orchestra. Judd has a recording of Strauss's Alpine Symphony with them as well.

post #2002 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
oh boy. Now I'm going to have to explain another Mahler recording in the house. I used to hide all of my new shoes and handbags. Now I've got to stow the recordings away out of sight and pretend that I've had them for "a long time." 0:-)
Hide the new discs in the old handbags
post #2003 of 3714
Too many cds, not enough handbags... OOh time to shop!
post #2004 of 3714
Thread Starter 
I had the Judd M1 but was not too impressed and sold it, so I hope Judd M9 fares better.....

I have to cool off my Mahler binge, just purchased 4 complete sets recently:
Sinopoli/DG
Kubelik/DG
Bertini/EMI
Abbado/DG

Looks like Bunny scores post #2,000
post #2005 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Things are quiet here in Mahlers world...........with all those Bertini sets arriving I though people would join in the discussion.......

Well listened to a few Mahler M2s yesterday and I must elevate the 1980 Solti CSO M2 to reference version, it is just an amazing performance that has it all especially the confidence/vision to fully unleash the powerful dramatic forces for the final judgement day conclusion, a revelation like no other version. Despite what you have read Solti has the full measure of this work and does not gloss over the subtle nueances or spiritual aspects of our Mahler hero figure.

Solti has all the emotion and nuerotic edge and emotion of Bernstein's Sony masterwork yet the superior Decca late analog sound recording captures the most subtle hushed tones and plucked strings. The choral and brass elements are awe inspiring, Solti truely had assembled an elite orchestra during the 1980's that took backseat none in technical abilities, and for this glorious M2 they play truely inspired for Solti.

I "think" I heard somewhere that Solti was not fully satisfied with original CSO M2 recording for Mahler set and insisted Decca record again at Medinah Temple in Chicago? He wanted to create a M2 that would become his legacy signature work......I may be confusing this with another Solti work, no mention in booklet.

BTW if I were to use mutliple entries per conductor both CSO & LSO Solti M2s would make top 5 list.

Top Mahler list by symphony, top pick first:

1)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/LSO/Decca Legends + Kubelik/Audite + Scherchen/Westminster + Horenstein/Unicorn + Abbado/CSO/DG
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2)Solti/CSO/London + Bernstein/Sony + Mehta/Decca Legends + Rattle/EMI GROTC + Litton/Delos + Kaplan/Conifer
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3)Horenstein/Unicorn + Bernstein/Sony + Barbirolli/BBC Legends + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Solti/London + Salonen/Sony
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4)Szell/Sony + Renier/RCA + Inbal/Dennon + Levine/RCA + Welser Most/EMI + Bernstein/DG
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5)Bernstein/DG + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Sinopoli/DG + Gatti/Musical Heritage + Barshai/Brilliant + Kubelik/Audite
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6)Mitropoulos/EMI Great Conductors + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Eiji Oue/Fontec + Szell/Sony
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7)Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Kubelik/Audite + Abbado/CSO/DG + Scherchen/Westminster + Solti/London
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9)Ancerl/Supraphon Gold + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Mitropoulos/Music & Arts + Bernstein/Sony + Kubelik Audite
post #2006 of 3714
I've been listening to the Bertini M7 and I have to say that for me it is an excellent reading. Each of the movements is incredibly coherent, relates well to the others and the finale finally makes sense.
post #2007 of 3714
So far with the Bertini:

1st movement of the 5th, didn't really excite me.

1st movement of the 6th, much better. He seemed to really get to the meat of it. Awesome sound too.

More later after I have time to listen.
post #2008 of 3714
Just relistened to Yoel Levi's Mahler 4 with Atlanta SO, Kathleen Battle. I picked it up a while ago at my neighborhood used cd store. Extremely good! Really is exceptional M4 and worth the pennies they are asking at Amazon. This could easily become one of my top favorites.

Anyone have any information about the Horenstein M1 on Unicorn Kanchana?
post #2009 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Just relistened to Yoel Levi's Mahler 4 with Atlanta SO, Kathleen Battle. I picked it up a while ago at my neighborhood used cd store. Extremely good! Really is exceptional M4 and worth the pennies they are asking at Amazon. This could easily become one of my top favorites.

Anyone have any information about the Horenstein M1 on Unicorn Kanchana?
Wait..........where did you get Levi M4 with Kathleen Battle????
My Levi/Telarc M4 has vocals by "Flicka" (Frederica Von Stade) this is probably one of the best in Levi's Mahler series with great sound, but a bit too polished and relaxed for my tastes, but if that is how you like your M4 (like Dave Hurwitz) then it will be near the top of your list

I have both 1969 Horenstein/LSO/Unicorn 56:51 timing and older Horenstein/Vox 57:38 timing M1, the Vox is a bit rough around the edges soundwise and small VSO (Vienna Symphony Orch) cannot match the virtuosity of LSO, but play inspired. Both Horensteins are a bit tame compared to Bernstein, Solti, Kubelik with less drama but instead more focused on atmosphere of the piece using more emphasis on tonal shades to paint various scences while still being true to the spirit of Mahler.
post #2010 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Wait..........where did you get Levi M4 with Kathleen Battle????
My Levi/Telarc M4 has vocals by "Flicka" (Frederica Von Stade) this is probably one of the best in Levi's Mahler series with great sound, but a bit too polished and relaxed for my tastes, but if that is how you like your M4 (like Dave Hurwitz) then it will be near the top of your list

I have both 1969 Horenstein/LSO/Unicorn 56:51 timing and older Horenstein/Vox 57:38 timing M1, the Vox is a bit rough around the edges soundwise and small VSO (Vienna Symphony Orch) cannot match the virtuosity of LSO, but play inspired. Both Horensteins are a bit tame compared to Bernstein, Solti, Kubelik with less drama but instead more focused on atmosphere of the piece using more emphasis on tonal shades to paint various scences while still being true to the spirit of Mahler.
You are correct -- I had a Kathleen Battle recording close by (Slatkin M2 ofcourse) when I wrote that, and must have been carried away -- or totally confused after sorting through my shelf of Mahlers.

I ask about the Horenstein because I have the Vox (coupled with Bruckner) and was thinking of buying the Unicorn as well as Tony Duggan has just reassessed Mahler 1s and put it in his top recommendations along with the Kubelik Audite. I saw it at a very reasonable price at amazon uk and decided to get it anyway. I guess that trigger finger of mine is too jumpy. So, more Mahler on the way. As you can guess, the Kubelik is already on the shelf.

Edit: It's actually the singing that I like the best the Levi M4. It also has the most Haydnesque feeling of all of the M4s. I'm still very partial to Levine's take and Reiner's but this one fits very well into the pack. I have to say that it is growing on me. I also feel that it is so Viennese -- I can see a sleigh being drawn by horses heading out of the city to the countryside, like that famous picture of the Archduke Rudolph that is in Fredrick Morton's book, A Nervous Splendor. In fact, this would be perfect music for a cup of Viennese Kaffee mit Schlag und Sächertorte. Yummy.
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