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post #1981 of 3714
Already have the Abbado CSO M5, great stuff indeed. The funny thing is that I rip most of my CD's to a hard drive & do most of my listening to that. Which means that my "set" of Abbado is really the cherry picked best recordings of each work that he's done throughout his career (almost entirely his early stuff). Given that context, you can see why I'm so high on the Abbado "set"
post #1982 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I think the Neumann/CPO versions now only sold as part of complete Neumann Mahler set, not heard them. The Leipzig version is the antithesis of low power.....again similar to high voltage Ancerl with very good gound quality (sound is better than Ancerl), my advice buy now.
Will try to do so, if Bunny didn't get the last one It seems that Neumann majorly mellowed in the 70's and 80's. What I've heard from Leipzig is highly energetic, if not subtle. The later Czech recordings are more bucolic and take the edges off of Mahler, almost as if he was trying to combine the fluency of Kubelik and the warm fuzzy feeling of Walter.
post #1983 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Mark from HFR
Will try to do so, if Bunny didn't get the last one It seems that Neumann majorly mellowed in the 70's and 80's. What I've heard from Leipzig is highly energetic, if not subtle. The later Czech recordings are more bucolic and take the edges off of Mahler, almost as if he was trying to combine the fluency of Kubelik and the warm fuzzy feeling of Walter.
Hehe. didn't get the last one, but the price was a bit more than $5.00 that DA spoke about, actually $10 and change including s&h. Hopefully there are more there.
post #1984 of 3714
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Hehe. didn't get the last one, but the price was a bit more than $5.00 that DA spoke about, actually $10 and change including s&h. Hopefully there are more there.
Doing a good job of clearing inventory for Amazon, had 10 used Neumann CDs yesterday and 6 today......I guarantee you will be thrilled, could be in my top 5 list but made too many changes recently and have to let dust settle a bit.

Getting very hard to find any hidden gems now since we have covered so many versions during the lifespan of this thread (unless we buy Japanese versions like Oue 6th)......and my Mahler collection has at least doubled in size
post #1985 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Doing a good job of clearing inventory for Amazon, had 10 used Neumann CDs yesterday and 6 today......
They should send a gold plaque to this thread
post #1986 of 3714
Those Japanese recordings are incredibly expensive, but their sound quality is not bettered anywhere! However, when they have a great performance combined with their extremely high sound quality, they are so good as to take my breath away. I only wish the Sony BMG music group, EMI and the Universal music group had such good engineering on all of their releases. I would love to hear a remastering of the Kubelik DG Mahler, for instance, on the level of the JVC remasters that preceded the Living Stereo releases which probably used their work on the redbook layers.
post #1987 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
I have that live CD as well will have to dig it out again.
Listening to this again I think I will be picking up the Boulez M2 when it comes out. Not everyones cup of tea, but I like it. Driven....lots of POWER...those looking for a spiritual M2, look elsewhere (and I am not saying either is better, just depends on ones moode).
post #1988 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Getting very hard to find any hidden gems now since we have covered so many versions during the lifespan of this thread (unless we buy Japanese versions like Oue 6th)......and my Mahler collection has at least doubled in size
Anyone been able to buy this from either the Fontec site or Amazon Japan?

Fontec site scares me with no secure server.
Scott
post #1989 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Top Mahler list by symphony, top pick first:

1)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/LSO/Decca Legends + Kubelik/Audite + Horenstein/Unicorn + Scherchen/Westminster
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2)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/CSO/London + Rattle/EMI + Mehta/Decca Legends + Litton/Delos + Kaplan/Conifer
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3)Horenstein/Unicorn + Bernstein/Sony + Barbirolli/BBC Legends + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Solti/London + Salonen/Sony
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4)Szell/Sony + Renier/RCA + Inbal/Dennon + Levine/RCA + Welser Most/EMI + Bernstein/DG
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5)Bernstein/DG + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Sinopoli/DG + Gatti/Musical Heritage + Barshai/Brilliant + Kubelik/Audite
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6)Mitropoulos/EMI Great Conductors + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Oue/Fontec + Szell/Sony
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7)Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Kubelik/Audite + Abbado/CSO/DG + Scherchen/Westminster + Solti/London
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9)Ancerl/Supraphon Gold + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Mitropoulos/Music & Arts + Bernstein/Sony + Kubelik Audite

After carefully comparing the two Bernstein M1s I am going to switch to NYPO/Sony as reference for M1, I just love the detailed sound on the older analog Sony M1 and the drama is even a bit higher here........the DG M1 is still a great one and easily one of the highlights of later DG Mahler set.

Waiting for these to arrive:
Abbado/CSO M1
Nagano/BPO M3
post #1990 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyson
Already have the Abbado CSO M5, great stuff indeed. The funny thing is that I rip most of my CD's to a hard drive & do most of my listening to that. Which means that my "set" of Abbado is really the cherry picked best recordings of each work that he's done throughout his career (almost entirely his early stuff). Given that context, you can see why I'm so high on the Abbado "set"
Tyson
If anything the 1982 CSO Mahler 1st is even greater performance than CSO 5th! This is easy first choice over BPO M1 contained in full set which is very good on its own terms. Abbado is full of life and vitality in all these early CSO performances that is completely absent from his later readings.....unfortunately. And the CSO brass is used to full effect making for great drama when required, someone said before the Solti influenced CSO made Abbado more daring/inspired than he is normally with Mahler and I believe it, a match that brings best from both styles.

I have the later DG Masters series CSO M1 CD which also adds M10 Adagio. So now I have CSO 1,2,5,6,7 for Abbado
post #1991 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Tyson
If anything the 1982 CSO Mahler 1st is even greater performance than CSO 5th! This is easy first choice over BPO M1 contained in full set which is very good on its own terms. Abbado is full of life and vitality in all these early CSO performances that is completely absent from his later readings.....unfortunately. And the CSO brass is used to full effect making for great drama when required, someone said before the Solti influenced CSO made Abbado more daring/inspired than he is normally with Mahler and I believe it, a match that brings best from both styles.

I have the later DG Masters series CSO M1 CD which also adds M10 Adagio. So now I have CSO 1,2,5,6,7 for Abbado
Interesting note about the Abbado CSO 1982 M1.

This is the first Compact Disc I ever heard. In fact, and I should let HFR Mark tell you this himself, but he bought this cd *before* he actually had a cd player. I just remember the magic of hearing the opening chord of the M1 eminate from the total silence.. it was pretty magical. I'm trying to remember what year that was, it was either 1983 or 1984.

and Mark, didn't you hear some kind of weird edit or "space change" somewhere near the beginning of that M1?

-jar
post #1992 of 3714
There is also a 7th listed for Abbado and the CSO. How good is that one?

DarkAngel,

I note that none of the Abbado are included in your top 5 list. Why?
post #1993 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
There is also a 7th listed for Abbado and the CSO. How good is that one?

DarkAngel,

I note that none of the Abbado are included in your top 5 list. Why?
I do have the CSO 7th in my list.......so naturally I am going to tell you it is great, sold as budget price 1CD, you must own it!

I also recently had to bump the Abbado VPO 9th from list to allow room for Mitropoulos, so it is almost on list. (only easily found in full Abbado set)
post #1994 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I do have the CSO 7th in my list.......so naturally I am going to tell you it is great, sold as budget price 1CD, you must own it!

I also recently had to bump the Abbado VPO 9th from list to allow room for Mitropoulos, so it is almost on list. (only easily found in full Abbado set)
Well, the 7th is a budget selection, but I have yet to hear a completely satisfactory recording of that symphony. It's probably the symphony with the most problems.

I have some new 9ths ordered, so I expect that my preferred list may yet be evolving again.
post #1995 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Anyone been able to buy this from either the Fontec site or Amazon Japan?

Fontec site scares me with no secure server.
Scott
I bought it from Amazon jp - the secret is to find the "international address" link on the address page.
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