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post #1966 of 3714
Does anyone have Esa-Pekka Salonen's M3 or M4? I've been researching those and would appreciate any information.
post #1967 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Masonjar
The last movement excerpt gave me goosebumps.

Easily some of the best Mahler I've heard from Boulez. Though I'll obviously reserve final judgment until I hear it in context of the rest of the work.

Can't wait to hear it.

-jar
I have a CD of the live performance Boulez gave in Vienna last year in June of the Mahler 2. It is indeed a wonderful performance. Boulez definitely is full of surprises; just when you think you have him figured out, he throws a curveball at you. The fourth movement is gorgeous and played quite slowly, and the fifth movement is wonderful. It almost sounds like the "Ice Man" is quite spiritual in this movement. I think the second movement is a bit too rushed for me, a little relaxation would've helped. The third movement is also a little zippy, but not disastrously so. The first movement is also very good; I've always loved the way Boulez opens this symphony. (I also have a DIVX recording with Boulez doing the Mahler 2 with the Staatskapelle Berlin; in addition, I heard the Chicago Symphony live with Boulez with the same piece a few years ago)

Being the Vienna performance was live, there are some mishaps (organ playing a wrong note at the end!), so it will be nice to have the studio version without those (as long as the spirit is maintained).

It's definitely a crowded field with Mahler's 2nd, but I think Boulez' could be the equal of many of the top recordings.
post #1968 of 3714
The BBCSO recording of the M2 has a bit of a following: Boulez can be as spiritual and emotional (in sort of an ironic way) as the next guy when he wants to be. I think that even he understands that the M2 and M8 need a little more than the "requiem for a fashion victim" approach.
post #1969 of 3714
Pulled out my Barshai M5 for a spin and again I am dumbfounded by the enthusiasm and quality of play that these student-musicians produced for Barshai. Maybe older veteran players have more polish, but nothing can begin to approximate the energy that the young players brought to their performance. I wonder where they all are now. Hopefully they are enjoying a career in music that is as gratifying to them as this recording is to other listeners and me.
post #1970 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I will hold back and keep my powder dry on Boulez M2.......I "suspect" it will show up on yourmusic.com and patient buyer will save big.
Scheduled release not till 5/2006, seems to be 1CD version which is good by my tastes.
Having gotten his M3 there and Kaplan's M2 (only stereo, alas), I suspect that you are right. I hope it's as good as the soundbites promise and that the sq is much better. Good SACD/multi channel would also be appreciated even if that doesn't make it to yourmusic.

Edit: Personally I think everything should only be released in SACD/hybrid format. I'll bet the volume of sales would result in the same prices as for conventional stereo.
post #1971 of 3714
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Originally Posted by SoundsGood
I have a CD of the live performance Boulez gave in Vienna last year in June of the Mahler 2. It is indeed a wonderful performance. Boulez definitely is full of surprises; just when you think you have him figured out, he throws a curveball at you. The fourth movement is gorgeous and played quite slowly, and the fifth movement is wonderful. It almost sounds like the "Ice Man" is quite spiritual in this movement. I think the second movement is a bit too rushed for me, a little relaxation would've helped. The third movement is also a little zippy, but not disastrously so. The first movement is also very good; I've always loved the way Boulez opens this symphony. (I also have a DIVX recording with Boulez doing the Mahler 2 with the Staatskapelle Berlin; in addition, I heard the Chicago Symphony live with Boulez with the same piece a few years ago)

Being the Vienna performance was live, there are some mishaps (organ playing a wrong note at the end!), so it will be nice to have the studio version without those (as long as the spirit is maintained).

It's definitely a crowded field with Mahler's 2nd, but I think Boulez' could be the equal of many of the top recordings.
I have that live CD as well will have to dig it out again.
post #1972 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Does anyone have Esa-Pekka Salonen's M3 or M4? I've been researching those and would appreciate any information.
I have the Salonen M3. Didn't impress highly the first couple times I listened to it, but it's been a few years. I'll make a point to pull it out and give it another spin here soon.

-jar
post #1973 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Masonjar
I have the Salonen M3. Didn't impress highly the first couple times I listened to it, but it's been a few years. I'll make a point to pull it out and give it another spin here soon.

-jar
I agree. I also have the Salonen M3, and it didn't blew me away. I like the Bernstein M3 much better.
post #1974 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Does anyone have Esa-Pekka Salonen's M3 or M4? I've been researching those and would appreciate any information.
I have Salonen's M4. I really enjoyed it at first, but the more I listened to it, the more calculated it seemed. He's very good at finding all sorts of details to highlight along the way, but it gradually began to seem to me that it lacked something emotionally. I should probably pull it off the shelf again at some point. The one which I have listened to in its place for the last few years is Daniele Gatti's. He finds all the quirky details, but at the same time feels more emotionally involved.

Mark
post #1975 of 3714
Thanks to everyone who has replied.

I may pass these by, but have been looking at a lot of different things. Hopefully I will find something new and interesting to report on.
post #1976 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Salonen M3
I have this on my top 5 list currently for M3 and style wise fits with others (bernstein, kondrashin, horenstein, barbirolli etc) meaning a forceful dramatic reading with contrasts played up, the modern Sony sound could hardly be better with huge dynamic range and bloom to sound. One hesitates to recommend Salonen because of his limited Mahler output.......you can see that Mahler cognoscenti like D.Hurwitz are very high on this at Amazon which surprises me since this is normally not his style of performance.

I took a flyer on used Nagano/BPO M3 which should arrive soon.....

Neumann M9
Since Bunny is searching new Mahler finds, here is real hidden gem that is very similar to Ancerl/Supraphon is style. The version to get is with Lepzig Orch not Czech PO, hidden away in the Brilliant box set along with Horenstein M3 or can be found used for $5 at Amazon as single CD......buy it!



Neumann
post #1977 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Neumann M9
Since Bunny is searching new Mahler finds, here is real hidden gem that is very similar to Ancerl/Supraphon is style. The version to get is with Lepzig Orch not Czech PO, hidden away in the Brilliant box set along with Horenstein M3 or can be found used for $5 at Amazon as single CD......buy it!



Neumann
DarkAngel,

Do you know Neumann's later recording of the M9 with the Czech Philharmonic? I was wondering if this earlier one is better, because the Leipzig version of the M6 was better than his later Czech version. The Czech M9 is a little low-powered in the inner movements, but has incredible warmth in the outer ones.

Mark
post #1978 of 3714
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mark from HFR
DarkAngel,

Do you know Neumann's later recording of the M9 with the Czech Philharmonic? I was wondering if this earlier one is better, because the Leipzig version of the M6 was better than his later Czech version. The Czech M9 is a little low-powered in the inner movements, but has incredible warmth in the outer ones.

Mark
I think the Neumann/CPO versions now only sold as part of complete Neumann Mahler set, not heard them. The Leipzig version is the antithesis of low power.....again similar to high voltage Ancerl with very good gound quality (sound is better than Ancerl), my advice buy now.
post #1979 of 3714
DarkAngel,

I have taken your advice and ordered the Neumann. I also have his M5 which came in the Brilliant Classics box set (older edition). Meanwhile I am trying to get my hands of the Bertini SACD of the M9 which is only available in Japan but is considered one of the top M9s there.
post #1980 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Tyson
To further improve our Abbado Mahler set you need to get the 1981 Abbado/CSO/DG Galleria M5.......I have it and compared to the very good live BPO M5 in current set it is slightly better still, for same reasons we like like the CSO M2 vs VPO M2. Easy to get used at Amazon for small price. The 1981 late analog sound is very good.

Also found very cheap Abbado/CSO M1 used at Amazon and waiting for delivery.......can't find any Abbado CSO M9, M4, M3 to make complete CSO set which would be fun
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