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post #1741 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Kubelik/DG Complete Set (jewel case with cool artwork)
In order to pick up 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 8th to go with my Kubelik/Audite 1,5,6,7,9 versions was cheaper just to buy used complete set of studio versions. This will allow the luxury for several symphonies to compare the studio version to the live Audite version.

This set arrived but actually comes in 3 "chubby" CD cases and not individual jewel cases.........saves space but was hoping to have cool artwork for each CD.
post #1742 of 3714
DarkAngel,

That packaging takes up more space but certainly is lovelier than the new packaging for the set. That photo of Gustav and Alma hiking through the countryside is reproduced on all of the cardboard cd sleeves, but the booklet has more photos of the composer.



Ofcourse, I still have the covers of the LPs with their lovely Art Nouveau illustrations as a backup. The cover of the M2 has a detail from Klimt's Der Kuss, an irony that the editors of the album probably were aware of.
post #1743 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Ofcourse, I still have the covers of the LPs with their lovely Art Nouveau illustrations as a backup. The cover of the M2 has a detail from Klimt's Der Kuss, an irony that the editors of the album probably were aware of.
Can't wait to hear Kubelik's M2........all the Audite versions are very good to excellent several on my top 5 list of best performances.

I probably should have got that newest box/paper sleeve set you show especially if the sound has been freshened up by remastering........does included booklet mention anything about "mastered at Berlin Studios" ?
post #1744 of 3714
There is no note about the recordings being "mastered" that I can find. They are noted thus:

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Recordings: München, Herkules-Saal, 2 & 3/1967 (No. 9), 6/1966 (No. 3), 10/1967 (No. 1), 4/1968 (Nos. 4, 10), 12/1968 (No. 6), 2 & 3/1969 (No. 2), 6/1970 (No. 8), 11/1970 (No. 7), 1/1971 (No. 5)

Executive Producers: Oto Gerdes (Nos. 1,3,4,9,10); Dr. Wilfried Daenicke (Nos. 2, 5-8)

Recording Producer: Hans Weber

Tonmeister (Balance Engineers): Heinz Wildhagen; Günter Hermanns (No. 1)

Then the copyright dates are supplied for the recordings (denoted by Circle P):
1967 (Nos. 3 & 9) / 1969 (Nos. 2, 6, 10) / 1971 (Nos. 5, 7, 8) Polydor International GmbH, Hamburg

If you can gather anything from that, let me know. I suspect that the recordings were not remastered for the "Collectors Edition," just repackaged.

Btw. the source for the cover photo is the Kaplan Foundation, NY; which comes as no surprise given that Kaplan's most recent recording is under DG's label. Essays in the booklet are by Karl Schumann (1971) and by Constantine Floros (1971; rev'd 1989 Prof. Dr. Constantine Floros). With the exception of the revised essay by Floros, and the possible inclusion of some additional photos I'll bet the booklets are substantially the same as well.
post #1745 of 3714
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Originally Posted by papy
#1 - Kubelik
#2 - Klemperer
#3 - Rattle
#4 - Szell
#5 - Barbirolli
#6 - Abbado (SACD not marked Hybrid - but would that play on normal CD player ?)
#7 - Halasz
#8 - Solti
#9 - Ancerl
#10- Rattle
Started to venture further after my post above - bought the 6th and 8th mentionned above, very promising ...and way different indeed !

one small thing though on Solti's 8th : Did anybody notice some sort of left/right "waving" of some instrument sounds, when listened to headphones ? Not hugely detrimental, but a bit of a bother...

Papy
post #1746 of 3714
Your list of Mahler performances is a good one, and many people would be happy with it. But boy, you can sure do better on 6 & 7. For 6 replace Abbado with Karajan, Barbirolli, or Bernstein. M7 I'd go Bernstein (Sony), Thomas (RCA) or Abbado in Chicago. Halasz is ok, but hardly a top contender.
post #1747 of 3714
I'd add Mitropoulos to that list for the 6th.
post #1748 of 3714
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Originally Posted by mbhaub
Your list of Mahler performances is a good one, and many people would be happy with it. But boy, you can sure do better on 6 & 7. For 6 replace Abaddo with Karajan, Baribirolli, or Bernstein. M7 I'd go Bernstein (Sony), Thomas (RCA) or Abaddo in Chicago. Halasz is ok, but hardly a top contender.
Actually, for M7 I'd rather hear Kubelik (audite) which is available singly. The Bernstein (sony) is equally well done. For the 6th, MTT with the SFSO, Zander or my current love, Eiji Oué with the Osaka Philharmonic.
post #1749 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Actually, for M7 I'd rather hear Kubelik (audite) which is available singly. The Bernstein (sony) is equally well done. For the 6th, MTT with the SFSO, Zander or my current love, Eiji Oué with the Osaka Philharmonic.
I am very curious, maybe next payday I'll try ordering from amazon.co.jp
post #1750 of 3714
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Originally Posted by mbhaub
Your list of Mahler performances is a good one, and many people would be happy with it. But boy, you can sure do better on 6 & 7. For 6 replace Abbado with Karajan, Barbirolli, or Bernstein. M7 I'd go Bernstein (Sony), Thomas (RCA) or Abbado in Chicago. Halasz is ok, but hardly a top contender.
6)Mitropoulos/EMI Great Conductors 20th Century + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Szell/Sony

7)Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Solti/London + Kubelik/Audite + Abbado/CSO/DG
post #1751 of 3714
Thanks for the recs. My list is definitely not written in stone, that was just aimed to reach a bit of variety in performances/conductors at an "affordable price" and available easily....but i can always amend that

(DA, your full mahler elite list was already on my desk with notes taken all along the way while reading the thread...i'll keep noting thanks).

Just out of curiosity, what is the abbado M6 missing that doesn't make on par with the bests ?

Anybody had any thoughts on Solti M8's sound "waves" ?

Papy

O.T. PS : btw, got Kleiber's B5/B7 that same day.... holy god !!!!!!!!
post #1752 of 3714
Actually, the Abbado 6th is on a lot of top Mahler lists. It's just a preference around here for performances of emotional intensity. Hurwitz I believe, has termed Abbado's Mahler "Mahler-lite." That maybe overstating it a bit, but Abbado tends to the introspective quietly angst ridden Mahler (I think of it as Swann's Way Mahler) as opposed to the nail biting frenzy of some other conductors.

Also as a side note, the better Abbado recordings are the ones made live from the Lugano Festival -- his most recent recordings. Sound quality in regular stereo tends to be a bit muffled although it is a bit better in SACD and dvd. Still, it feels as if you are listening to the symphony from quite a distance.
post #1753 of 3714
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Originally Posted by papy

O.T. PS : btw, got Kleiber's B5/B7 that same day.... holy god !!!!!!!!
Now that one is a wonder to behlod!
post #1754 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Now that one is a wonder to behlod!
behlod? I think you mear hrea.
post #1755 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Actually, the Abbado 6th is on a lot of top Mahler lists. It's just a preference around here for performances of emotional intensity. Hurwitz I believe, has termed Abbado's Mahler "Mahler-lite." That maybe overstating it a bit, but Abbado tends to the introspective quietly angst ridden Mahler (I think of it as Swann's Way Mahler) as opposed to the nail biting frenzy of some other conductors.
Well, there are some of us who aren't all that keen on deeply emotional readings of Mahler. Abbado's 6th is one of my favorites, up there with the Boulez.
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