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post #1546 of 3714
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Speaking of Abbado........hope everyone has order placed for Abbado/DG 6th from yourmusic.com, mine should arrive any day now. I am hoping for a more passionate inspired performance than recent 7th which as only OK for me and takes a back seat to his earlier CSO 7th.....
post #1547 of 3714
Abbado Mahler 5 DVD came today from Netflix. Can't wait to dig in.

Scott
post #1548 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Speaking of Abbado........hope everyone has order placed for Abbado/DG 6th from yourmusic.com, mine should arrive any day now. I am hoping for a more passionate inspired performance than recent 7th which as only OK for me and takes a back seat to his earlier CSO 7th.....
I like his recent M6. The interpretation is decidedly Abbado, but it is well-played, if over-hyped.
post #1549 of 3714
My 9 cents...

1. Walter
2. Klemperer
3. Bernstein
4. Kletzki
5. Shipway
6. Karajan
7. Abbado
8. Tennstedt
9. Karajan
post #1550 of 3714
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Originally Posted by audiophilia
My 9 cents...

1. Walter
2. Klemperer
3. Bernstein
4. Kletzki
5. Shipway
6. Karajan
7. Abbado
8. Tennstedt
9. Karajan
2. Which Klemperer? EMI I assume, but there are others. Can't be the Vox.
3. Sony or DG?
5. Who? Oh, Frank. There's a complete performance?
7. Which one? Chicago or Berlin?
post #1551 of 3714
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Originally Posted by mbhaub
2. Which Klemperer? EMI I assume, but there are others. Can't be the Vox.
3. Sony or DG?
5. Who? Oh, Frank. There's a complete performance?
7. Which one? Chicago or Berlin?
I would assume the Chicago 7th, as his Berlin outing has not been well-received.
post #1552 of 3714
I follow some classical mailing lists and saw the following posted as a coming new release, I have heard Kletzki on the 9th and it is quite nice (No Ancerl, but it has it's moments):

MAHLER Symphonies: No.4 & 5 (Adagietto); Das Lied von der Erde SCHUBERT
Rosamunde Overture. Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau/ Murray Dickie, Philharmonia
Orchestra/ Paul Kletzki. EMI Gemini 2cds
post #1553 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Speaking of Abbado........hope everyone has order placed for Abbado/DG 6th from yourmusic.com, mine should arrive any day now. I am hoping for a more passionate inspired performance than recent 7th which as only OK for me and takes a back seat to his earlier CSO 7th.....
Another mildly disappointing effort by Abbado for me........all the jagged edges smoothed over replaced with smooth shiny "telarc" like production including the huge bombastic overblown climaxes in an attempt to generate some superficial excitement from an otherwise lackluster 6th, I don't feel the passion or nervious tension. This reminds me very much of Levi/Telarc in both style and sound.......you would think after 30 years of recording Mahler with best orchestras there would be more to show.......a definitive performance???

Just to refresh my spirit put on the super budget Wit/Naxos 6th and all the mystery/passion/energy returned that was missing with Abbado.......my opinion of Abbado's overall body Mahler work continues to decline.

Fortunately this only cost me $5.99
post #1554 of 3714
Not sure if anyone else caught it, but PBS did a special Live from Lincoln Center, M1 with Maazel and the NYPO at Avery Fischer Hall, was quite good. Though I skipped over Lang Lang doing Chopin PC1 and went straight to the M1.

Scott
post #1555 of 3714
That was great Mahler playing and conducting. I've always rated Maazel's Mahler highly, and both of his M1s (Vienna and Paris) are superb. For an old geezer, he still can get the adrenaline flowing. Too bad you missed the Chopin, it was superb -- just don't watch it. Lang Lang's facial expressions make you want to gag.
post #1556 of 3714
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Originally Posted by mbhaub
That was great Mahler playing and conducting. I've always rated Maazel's Mahler highly, and both of his M1s (Vienna and Paris) are superb. For an old geezer, he still can get the adrenaline flowing. Too bad you missed the Chopin, it was superb -- just don't watch it. Lang Lang's facial expressions make you want to gag.
Well, I can still watch it (recorded on the Tivo), but yes...he's painful to watch. I had picked up his Rach 3rd and wasn't really impressed, he's not bad, I've just heard better.
post #1557 of 3714
Gotten quiet here. Anyone get anything new Mahler-wise lately. Ivan Fisher M6 on SACD. Some seem to like it better than Abbado.

Scott
post #1558 of 3714
Yes, the music forum has been quite silent in terms of classical genre discussions. I hope that tyson, DarkAngel and Bunnyears continue to contribute to these discussions!

I recently attended the San Francisco Symphony/ Michael Tilson Thomas performance of Mahler: Symphony No. 5. Shortly there after I purchased Mahler: Symphony No. 9/ Michael Tilson Thomas and consider it to be among the best, along side Riccardo Chailly's performance. The second and seventh symphonies are my favorite of Mahler's symphonies and I am somewhat curious what tyson and other users feel is the best recording of the seventh symphony.


Best,
iDesign
post #1559 of 3714
It's good to see this thread still alive. We spent a lot of time on M7 a while back, and frankly preferences are all over the place. Personally, I prefer recordings that acknowledge the madcap, Marx Brothers finale for what it is: zany fun. That requires a fairly fast tempo, and that really narrows the field. Kondrashin/Concertgebouw is a scintillating live reading. The Michael T Thomas with the London SYmphony on RCA is extremely fine -- so the brilliant version heard in SF last year shouldn't be a surprise. I like Bernstein/Sony, but not the DG -- too slow.
I enjoyed Abbado/Chicago, but was underwhelmed with the Berlin remake. I can't figure out what all the fuss was about.
Chailly, Maazel, Levi all have fine readings of the first four movements, but let me down in the finale.
A highly rated performance by M Gielen is well worth its price.
If great sound isn't necessary, several of Hermann Scherchen's mono recordings are really good -- even if the orchestral playing is never above mediocre.
The Inbal is generally ok, except for some missing trombones in the first movement due to a bad edit. Kubelik with NY in their Mahler set is much better than his DG. Boulez is great if you like that approach (who can match the Cleveland orchestra?). Levine on RCA is excellent and the sound is sensational.
Ones I can't stand: Solti (no humor, too serious), Masur (he doesn't get it), Rattle (I don't understand how he is so highly regarded as a Mahler conductor) and Bruno Maderna (execrable playing). The Hans Rosbaud is interesting, but the playing and recording are crude. Abravanel's orchestra just can't muster the sound needed, and he is lackluster.

Sorry to be so long-winded, but the 7th is also my favorite Mahler symphony.
In a nutshell: go for Thomas, since the Kondrashin is generally not available. This ranking will likely change when the Thomas/SF/SACD comes out.
post #1560 of 3714
Nice round-up.

For my purposes, I really do prefer the Abbado/CSO M7. However, I will have to investigate the others mentioned.

As an aside, I saw Barenboim and the CSO in the M5 on 14 October. It was a very solid performance. Barenboim's interpretation was daring, as he kept the whole thing on the razor's edge. At a couple of moments, it seemed like the orchestra was going to fall apart, but it always stayed just this side of coherence. Like me.

Seriously, though, Barenboim topped his Teldec recording. I hope that someone somewhere got this one down. It was one of the better ones, though I still find myself going to Barbirolli for the M5.
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