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post #1531 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I would love to find a copy of the Kondrashin/CBO/Tahra 7th and compare it to the Melodiya 7th with Lenningrad Philharmonic 1975, it is my reference so naturally would like to hear what Kondy does 4 years later with world class orchestra and better sound.......

The 1959 Mitropoulos 6th with Koln RSO rules all whether historic or modern, the new remaster contained on 2CD Great Conductors of 20th Century sounds pretty good........yet why quibble with sound issues when performances of such great stature exist.

I do notice one "problem" with your list however..........no Bernstein!
The Kondrashin/Tahra is really hard to find. I found it at Princeton Record Exchange which is a quick trip from NYC.
I can't ignore sound quality: although there is a lot to enjoy and learn from historical recordings, composers are better served when reproduction quality is as good as possible. I wouldn't be without Mitropoulos, Furtwangler, Toscanini, et al, but sadly they made no recordings in first class sound.
As to Bernstein: I learned Mahler from the Bernstein/Sony set in the LP days. I put them in a special category, not unlike the NY Philharmonics Mahler set, which also omitted all Bernstein. No connductor seemed to understand Mahler like Bernstein, and the problem I have in recommending them is that sometimes I get the feeling that it's hard to tell where Mahler ends and Bernstein begins. The Sony set has sound that was ok in the 1960s, but now is far surpassed. The DG set never thrilled me, except the 3rd. I think his best Mahler was done with the Vienna Philharmonic on DVD -- the 7th is a real hoot!
post #1532 of 3714
Speaking of Bernstein, some new CD's and DVDs coming out:

http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/we...lectorsedition
post #1533 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Speaking of Bernstein, some new CD's and DVDs coming out:

http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/we...lectorsedition
I think I have something else I am going to put on my to-buy list.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by scottder
Speaking of Bernstein, some new CD's and DVDs coming out:
http://www.deutschegrammophon.com/we...lectorsedition
Yes now if only we could have all those sets duplicated using performances from the earlier and for me superior NYPO/Sony recordings........
post #1535 of 3714
Ancerl M9 arrived today, man Caiman is SLOOOWWW these days.
post #1536 of 3714
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by scottder
Ancerl M9 arrived today, man Caiman is SLOOOWWW these days.
Very often take thier sweet time

Ancerl will make it worth your wait, fasten your seatbelt before you unleash this unstoppable juggernaut......recording is a bit bright but we must learn to live with these minor imperfections
post #1537 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Very often take thier sweet time

Ancerl will make it worth your wait, fasten your seatbelt before you unleash this unstoppable juggernaut......recording is a bit bright but we must learn to live with these minor imperfections
Yeah, though they will happily take your money up front. Oh well, it's here....listened on the way into work tonight. I am really liking what I am hearin g so far.

Thanks!
Scott
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Thread Starter 
For some unknown reason spent a few bucks to get:
Litton/Delos 4th

Of course the Delos sound is great but the performance is just average in every respect and is pretty far down the list of best 4ths available.....
post #1539 of 3714
That's how I felt about all of Litton's Mahler. Sound was great -- especially with Surround Sound kicked in. But that wasn't enough. The 2nd was decent, but the 3rd wasn't anything special. It was even dull. 5, too. The 10th was only interesting for the arrangement used (Carpenter's). Too bad. Litton is so very good in Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky, and Dvorak. Maybe that's his niche. It sure isn't Mahler.
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Originally Posted by mbhaub
That's how I felt about all of Litton's Mahler. Sound was great -- especially with Surround Sound kicked in. But that wasn't enough. The 2nd was decent, but the 3rd wasn't anything special. It was even dull. 5, too. The 10th was only interesting for the arrangement used (Carpenter's). Too bad. Litton is so very good in Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky, and Dvorak. Maybe that's his niche. It sure isn't Mahler.
Yes the 2nd is the best Mahler I have heard by Litton, not in my top 3-4 versions but not too far down the list, and the Delos sound is fabulous
post #1541 of 3714
Time to wake this thread up.

Last week I picked up the new DVD Mahler 5 with Abbado in Lucerne. To make it short: this version of 5 is now at the top of the heap. This is truly great Mahler playing and conducting. Thrilling. The DTS surround sound is the among the best I've heard. The camera work is excellent, and for once you can actually use the Angle button and watch Abbado all the way through if you like that sort of thing. This is outstanding, and any Mahler lover must hear this.
On the third go around, I used headphones (Senn 650) and my Yamaha RX-V1 delivered superb headphone sound in Silent Cinema mode. Speakers or phones, this is Mahler at its best. Far superior to the 2nd from the same source. Now, will he do 7!!!!
post #1542 of 3714
mbhaub,

Excellent, I had heard good things about this. Sounds like a nice DVD to own....

Scott
post #1543 of 3714
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Originally Posted by mbhaub
Time to wake this thread up.

Last week I picked up the new DVD Mahler 5 with Abbado in Lucerne. To make it short: this version of 5 is now at the top of the heap. This is truly great Mahler playing and conducting. Thrilling. The DTS surround sound is the among the best I've heard. The camera work is excellent, and for once you can actually use the Angle button and watch Abbado all the way through if you like that sort of thing. This is outstanding, and any Mahler lover must hear this.
On the third go around, I used headphones (Senn 650) and my Yamaha RX-V1 delivered superb headphone sound in Silent Cinema mode. Speakers or phones, this is Mahler at its best. Far superior to the 2nd from the same source. Now, will he do 7!!!!
His 1993 5th with the Berliners was very, very good too. The man is a rather underrated Mahlerian. His recent, unfortunate bout with cancer has really added something to his interpretations, which was helpful. He became progressively more boring as he got older - until his illness.
post #1544 of 3714
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Originally Posted by PSmith08
His 1993 5th with the Berliners was very, very good too. The man is a rather underrated Mahlerian. His recent, unfortunate bout with cancer has really added something to his interpretations, which was helpful. He became progressively more boring as he got older - until his illness.
Actually, the one thing that no one can say about Abbado is that he is an underrated Mahlerian. His work has usually drawn great critical acclaim.
post #1545 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Actually, the one thing that no one can say about Abbado is that he is an underrated Mahlerian. His work has usually drawn great critical acclaim.
In my mind, he has always been overshadowed by another. For the 1960s and 1970s, Bernstein was the man for many, though Klemperer wasn't dead yet; in the 1980s and 1990s, he had Zander, Rattle, Tilson Thomas, and Boulez to grapple with. Abbado might have received critical acclaim, but he is not the towering figure in the oeuvre that he should be.
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