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post #1261 of 3714
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mbhaub
The new Kondrashin Melodiya 4th has last movement originally done in Russian, then 1 yr later recorded in German......both versions included on CD so you have your choice.

Masonjar
Solti/LSO mahler 1st is 1964 performance, I have later CSO version also which is great and almost a coin flip to choose between......but LSO is a bit more mysterious and evocative.

Bunny
Those are still good versions and I still own them.....but others listed above are even a bit better for me therefore make the elite list.
post #1262 of 3714
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Masonjar
Solti/LSO mahler 1st is 1964 performance, I have later CSO version also which is great and almost a coin flip to choose between......but LSO is a bit more mysterious and evocative.
I see that the London recording is in a set with the 2nd. I might have to add that to my wish list, as I don't believe I've heard any of Solti's recordings of the 2nd, if I did, it's been a long long time ago.

-jar
post #1263 of 3714
Did I tell any of you that I have an Ormandy/Philadelphia Mahler 2nd on vinyl? Scored it at Half-price Books about 4 years ago. As soon as I get my stereo back up and running, I'll have to give it a spin. Anyone else have this? I don't think I've ever seen it on CD.

-jar
post #1264 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Masonjar
Did I tell any of you that I have an Ormandy/Philadelphia Mahler 2nd on vinyl? Scored it at Half-price Books about 4 years ago. As soon as I get my stereo back up and running, I'll have to give it a spin. Anyone else have this? I don't think I've ever seen it on CD.

-jar
Wow, that should be interesting. I never even knew he recorded it in Philadelphia. I'd still like to hear the one he made way back in the mid-30's with the Minneapolis Symphony. It was apparently the first Mahler recording made in the U.S. I believe Ormandy also made the first Bruckner recording with Minn. of the 7th.

I have an LP of Omandy/Philadelphia doing Mahler 1. It was pleasantly grand and lyrical, as I recollect.

M
post #1265 of 3714
I just picked up the Abbado M4, but haven't listened yet. Anyone heard it?
post #1266 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
mbhaub
The new Kondrashin Melodiya 4th has last movement originally done in Russian, then 1 yr later recorded in German......both versions included on CD so you have your choice.

Masonjar
Solti/LSO mahler 1st is 1964 performance, I have later CSO version also which is great and almost a coin flip to choose between......but LSO is a bit more mysterious and evocative.

Bunny
Those are still good versions and I still own them.....but others listed above are even a bit better for me therefore make the elite list.
DarkAngel,

Are these the recordings from the Decca Set? I had heard pretty negative things about the set with some individual earlier recordings Solti made being considered much better, including his M4 with the Concertgebouw(OOP now, ofcourse). In fact, I had heard the concertgebouw at a friend's house and it really impressed me. If you could give me some place to find any of the ones you recommend I would greatly appreciate it!
post #1267 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Also keep in mind the Kondrashin 5,6,7,9 are all 1CD versions making them more affordable than 2CD versions of 6,7,9 etc.

You can buy at Ebay or russiandvd.com website (which has very long streaming samples).

Heh!.......look at the price increase of Kondrashin Shostakovich set $99-129! Looks like Head-Fi demand drives up prices/depletes stock again
DA - I'm not seeing the Kondrashin Mahlers when I search on russiandvd by conductor or composer. Should I be doing it another way?
post #1268 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
This is very interesting as I hadn't heard anything about St. Sulpice having such important accoustics. The interior of the Eglise de St. Jean Baptiste (French RC) in NYC is practically the same as St. Sulpice, but I've never heard of it being used for any recordings.
St. Sulpice was the venue for some very famous Bach organ recordings by Marcel Dupre, made in the 50s for Mercury Living Presence.
post #1269 of 3714
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DA - I'm not seeing the Kondrashin Mahlers when I search on russiandvd by conductor or composer. Should I be doing it another way?
Doc,

Search Kondrashin Mahler and that should bring it all up. Also be sure that you have selected Audio in the tab.
post #1270 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
St. Sulpice was the venue for some very famous Bach organ recordings by Marcel Dupre, made in the 50s for Mercury Living Presence.
Aha! That sounds very interesting. I wonder if it's the church or the organ which is the important part of the equation. Apparently, great organs are as difficult to achieve as great accoustics.

Are they still available or OOP?
post #1271 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Aha! That sounds very interesting. I wonder if it's the church or the organ which is the important part of the equation. Apparently, great organs are as difficult to achieve as great accoustics.

Are they still available or OOP?
Sadly OOP. Dupre's recordings made at St Thomas church in NYC are still available, but not the St Sulpice ones.
post #1272 of 3714
I wonder what label did the dirty deed? Wouldn't be London/Decca?

Btw, I have located a copy of the Solti/Concertgebouw Mahler 4 which is now winging it's way from New Zealand to me. And to think, the 4th isn't even my favorite symphony!
post #1273 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
My top 3-4 versions each Symphony to date:
1)Bernstein/DG + Solti/LSO/Decca Legends + Kubelik/Audite
2)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/CSO/London + Rattle/EMI + Mehta/Decca Legends
3)Horenstein/Unicorn + Bernstein/Sony + Rattle/EMI + Barbirolli/BBC Legends
4)Szell/Sony + Renier/RCA + Inbal/Dennon + Bernstein/DG
5)Bernstein/DG + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Sinopoli/DG + Brabirolli/EMI GROTC
6)Mitropoulos/Great Conductors 20th + Bernstein/Sony + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Szell/Sony
7)Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Solti/London + Abbado/CSO/DG
8)Solti/Decca Legends
9)Ancerl/Supraphon Gold + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/BPO/DG (live)
10)Rattle/EMI

Just to finish up on the Kondrashin Mahler, any serious Mahlerite must own some of the partial set, (it is one of the best kept secrets out there) but not necessary to buy complete Melodiya partial set, here are the must haves:

1st Tier - Mahler 7th, 5th
See my list above, these are absolutely essential and perform Mahler in ways newer conductors seem incapable of matching regardless of any advanced sound quality afforded them......you must have these!

2nd Tier - Mahler 6th, 9th
These are still excellent and make my reference list above but just shy of the greatness of 7,5.......the 9th may actually belong in tier 1, but if you only want to buy two get 7,5.

3rd Tier - Mahler 1st, 3rd, 4th
While very good these works do not acheive the same elite status as those listed above, therefore to save money you could just buy Tier 1 or 2 selections above instead of complete Melodiya Mahler set. For those who must have it all by all means order the full Melodiya 1,3,4,5,6,7,9 set.

BTW......did anyone other than Mark HFR get some Kondrashin? What say ye?
Kondrashin M7 on order. M5 in heavy consideration.

Just curious, what's Kondrashin's timing on the M5 adagietto?
post #1274 of 3714
Well, I have just listened to the Horenstein M3 and the Chailly M3. I think I need to listen to them both a bit more before forming an opinion. Sound quality for the Chailly is noticeably better (not surprising as it's an excellent SACD recording).
post #1275 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Masonjar
I see that the London recording is in a set with the 2nd. I might have to add that to my wish list, as I don't believe I've heard any of Solti's recordings of the 2nd, if I did, it's been a long long time ago.
-jar
I have that 2CD set that includes Solti/LSO 2nd......but here I clearly prefer the later CSO 2nd which is noticeably more energetic and vibrant.
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