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post #1246 of 3714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
The Horenstein M3 is here from Amazon UK!

Now to press play and see what all the buzz is about...
You will notice Horenstein sustains a coherent unified vision in the final movement slowly building to a powerful climax with bold tympani strikes leading the final march sweeping all before it.......power and glory move hand in hand as Horenstien masterfully sustains the "long line" like no other.

Most conductors are unable to make sense of last movement turning it into bland confused mess.
post #1247 of 3714
DarkAngel,

I guess I know what I'm listening to tonight.
post #1248 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
DarkAngel,

I guess I know what I'm listening to tonight.
Stop posting and start listening!
post #1249 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottder
Stop posting and start listening!
If life were only that simple.
post #1250 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
If life were only that simple.
We try and tear ourselves away but we keep getting pulled back in!
post #1251 of 3714
Thread Starter 
My top 3-4 versions each Symphony to date:
1)Bernstein/DG + Solti/LSO/Decca Legends + Kubelik/Audite
2)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/CSO/London + Rattle/EMI + Mehta/Decca Legends
3)Horenstein/Unicorn + Bernstein/Sony + Rattle/EMI + Barbirolli/BBC Legends
4)Szell/Sony + Renier/RCA + Inbal/Dennon + Bernstein/DG
5)Bernstein/DG + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Sinopoli/DG + Brabirolli/EMI GROTC
6)Mitropoulos/Great Conductors 20th + Bernstein/Sony + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Szell/Sony
7)Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Solti/London + Abbado/CSO/DG
8)Solti/Decca Legends
9)Ancerl/Supraphon Gold + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/BPO/DG (live)
10)Rattle/EMI

Just to finish up on the Kondrashin Mahler, any serious Mahlerite must own some of the partial set, (it is one of the best kept secrets out there) but not necessary to buy complete Melodiya partial set, here are the must haves:

1st Tier - Mahler 7th, 5th
See my list above, these are absolutely essential and perform Mahler in ways newer conductors seem incapable of matching regardless of any advanced sound quality afforded them......you must have these!

2nd Tier - Mahler 6th, 9th
These are still excellent and make my reference list above but just shy of the greatness of 7,5.......the 9th may actually belong in tier 1, but if you only want to buy two get 7,5.

3rd Tier - Mahler 1st, 3rd, 4th
While very good these works do not acheive the same elite status as those listed above, therefore to save money you could just buy Tier 1 or 2 selections above instead of complete Melodiya Mahler set. For those who must have it all by all means order the full Melodiya 1,3,4,5,6,7,9 set.

BTW......did anyone other than Mark HFR get some Kondrashin? What say ye?
post #1252 of 3714
Hmm maybe I'll pick up the Kondrashin 7th one of these days. M7 has never really stuck for me, but I've found sometimes it takes just the right conductor for a symphony to click. Arkiv only has the Kondrashin on special order.

Scott
post #1253 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Hmm maybe I'll pick up the Kondrashin 7th one of these days. M7 has never really stuck for me, but I've found sometimes it takes just the right conductor for a symphony to click. Arkiv only has the Kondrashin on special order.
Scott
Also keep in mind the Kondrashin 5,6,7,9 are all 1CD versions making them more affordable than 2CD versions of 6,7,9 etc.

You can buy at Ebay or russiandvd.com website (which has very long streaming samples).

Heh!.......look at the price increase of Kondrashin Shostakovich set $99-129! Looks like Head-Fi demand drives up prices/depletes stock again
post #1254 of 3714
Just picked up the Kondrashin Mahler (at Russian dvd) because I wanted a Sviatoslav Ricter cd that only they had. That brought total above their $100 threshold, and price of the Mahler dropped to $89 (and free shipping). Ofcourse, they are based in in NYC, so I'll get the set in a few days, but still I have the miserable 8.25% sales tax added.
post #1255 of 3714
Scott,

How do you find the Horenstein compares to the Chailly M3? Does it bear comparison well, or is it now an "also ran"?
post #1256 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Scott,

How do you find the Horenstein compares to the Chailly M3? Does it bear comparison well, or is it now an "also ran"?
I haven't run the Horenstein through it's paces, one of these days I'll do a side by side.

Scott
post #1257 of 3714
Dark Angel: I was glad to see your endorsement of the Kondrashins. I picked up 4, 5, 7 and 9 in the LP days but haven't thought of these recordings in years. I need to check them out. Question: the M4 last movement is sung in Russian on the LP release. Same on the CD?
post #1258 of 3714
Checked out a box set of live Szell/Cleveland recordings from the late 50's and 60's from the library.. contains a recording of the Mahler 9th recorded at Severance hall in January 1969.. only got through about the first 10 minutes or so of the first movement, I wasn't as focused as I'd like to have been, so I'll have to give it a go later. The overall time is 75 minutes, so it's a quick one. And the sound is quite dry, but that's Severance Hall for you. Kind of a noisy audience too, January, cold season, hack hack cough... but hopefully I'll get to listen through it completely here soon and let you all know what I think.

Other things I dug out of my collection to listen to in the next few weeks:

Abaddo DG set of Mahler 2 & 4, late 70's recordings I think.
Guilini DG recording of Das Lied (w/ Chicago maybe??), been a while since I've listened to this, so I'm looking forward to it.
Karajan Mahler 6th.

Damn, I have a lot of DG cds, probably about 1/3 of my classical cd collection is on DG.

I was looking over my Das Lieds, I have a Horenstein on Music & Arts, the old Walter on Columbia, Tennstedt on EMI and the Giulini on DG. Now that I think about it, it's been quite a very long time since I've listened to Das Lied..

-jar
post #1259 of 3714
Solti/LSO/Decca Legends

DA,

What year was this one done? The Solti recording that I have is with Chicago, recorded in the early-mid 80's. Still remains one of my top 3 Mahler 1sts. Was this one earlier?

This is the one I have:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...sical&n=507846


-jar
post #1260 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
My top 3-4 versions each Symphony to date:
1)Bernstein/DG + Solti/LSO/Decca Legends + Kubelik/Audite
2)Bernstein/Sony + Solti/CSO/London + Rattle/EMI + Mehta/Decca Legends
3)Horenstein/Unicorn + Bernstein/Sony + Rattle/EMI + Barbirolli/BBC Legends
4)Szell/Sony + Renier/RCA + Inbal/Dennon + Bernstein/DG
5)Bernstein/DG + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Sinopoli/DG + Brabirolli/EMI GROTC
6)Mitropoulos/Great Conductors 20th + Bernstein/Sony + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Szell/Sony
7)Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/Sony + Solti/London + Abbado/CSO/DG
8)Solti/Decca Legends
9)Ancerl/Supraphon Gold + Kondrashin/Melodiya + Bernstein/BPO/DG (live)
10)Rattle/EMI

Just to finish up on the Kondrashin Mahler, any serious Mahlerite must own some of the partial set, (it is one of the best kept secrets out there) but not necessary to buy complete Melodiya partial set, here are the must haves:

1st Tier - Mahler 7th, 5th
See my list above, these are absolutely essential and perform Mahler in ways newer conductors seem incapable of matching regardless of any advanced sound quality afforded them......you must have these!

2nd Tier - Mahler 6th, 9th
These are still excellent and make my reference list above but just shy of the greatness of 7,5.......the 9th may actually belong in tier 1, but if you only want to buy two get 7,5.

3rd Tier - Mahler 1st, 3rd, 4th
While very good these works do not acheive the same elite status as those listed above, therefore to save money you could just buy Tier 1 or 2 selections above instead of complete Melodiya Mahler set. For those who must have it all by all means order the full Melodiya 1,3,4,5,6,7,9 set.

BTW......did anyone other than Mark HFR get some Kondrashin? What say ye?
You seem to have dropped the Klemperer M2 from your list of references! any particular reason? And I note that Solti has a place for the M1, M2 and M8 but his M4 which is also highly praised is not there.
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