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post #1231 of 3714
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottder
Interesting, how about the performance, for those of us not familiar with the Slatkin M2?

Scott
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Slatkin
post #1232 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottder
Interesting, how about the performance, for those of us not familiar with the Slatkin M2?

Scott
Musicweb has a recent review:
Slatkin
post #1233 of 3714
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For the Doctor.........
I listened to my used copy of Abravanel Mahler 5,6 and found it most similar sounding to Inbal/Denon. There is a light clear transparent sound almost as if smaller forces are used which is good for illuminating small details of the score, but lacks a bit in comparison with less powerful transitions and climaxes and dramatic energy not quite up with best performances......will not replace anything in my recent list of best Mahler performances, but also definitely good enough to keep in collection especially at this budget used price.

The Caiman droogies notified me yesterday that my Abravanel 2,4 just shipped ( ) from FLA so still take a while to comment on Doc's beloved Mahler 4.......I do suspect Abravanel's style will fit better with 4th than 2,5,6 which require the high voltage dramatic effect to fully succeed.

Also just for research sake ordered used Slatkin/Telarc 2nd CD. I am not a fan of 1980's Telarc house sound CDs however which sounds soft and opaque to my ears almost like a misty fog rolled in during recording session. Also some early Telarc Cds had the dreaded "index" marks instead of tracks which makes CD navigation a real pain......will of course report when CD arrives
post #1234 of 3714
DarkAngel,

Abravanel does a very good job on the 4th, as Doc has pointed out. I haven't heard the other Abravanel symphonies, but from your description, I would think that the 4th is probably the best of the cycle.

Meanwhile, I have been waiting for the Horenstein 3rd which has been in the mail for what seems like ages.

You are not waiting for the Telarc re-release of the Slatkin in SACD/hybrid?
post #1235 of 3714
sorry if i don't get through the '90 pages to get it discovered myself , but..
if I like -a lot- the romantic period writers , which mahler piece/performer should i look for and try ?
post #1236 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
You are not waiting for the Telarc re-release of the Slatkin in SACD/hybrid?
I've seen used copies of this one very cheap, wonder if it would be worth comparing the two, just for giggles.

Scott
post #1237 of 3714
Scott,

I'm not going to waste money comparing sound between the two. I'll wait for the reviews and get the edition that has the better sound. I just don't have the space for something like that in the house and I'd land up giving away one of them.

Boodi,

Try and do a little reading about the symphonies by looking at some reviews at highfidelityreview.com, Classicstoday.com or even Amazon to get an idea of which symphonies might appeal to you. You can start with No. 1 or or you can jump into the middle. Give us an idea of specific works you enjoy so that we can give you a little more specific help.
post #1238 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Scott,

I'm not going to waste money comparing sound between the two. I'll wait for the reviews and get the edition that has the better sound. I just don't have the space for something like that in the house and I'd land up giving away one of them.
Actually I was thinking out loud there, *I* was planning on getting both, and reporting my findings so people can make a wise choice (or at least hear my opinion).



Scott
post #1239 of 3714
Scott,

You need an emoticon with a halo for doing something that utterly selfless!

Please let us know which edition gets the seal of approval. After the DG Beethoven sacd releases (both Kleiber and HvK) we are all aware that sacd doesn't necessarily mean better. And now, with most of the engineers that were responsible for Telarc's great sound working for DHM who knows what to expect?
post #1240 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Scott,

You need an emoticon with a halo for doing something that utterly selfless!

Please let us know which edition gets the seal of approval. After the DG Beethoven sacd releases (both Kleiber and HvK) we are all aware that sacd doesn't necessarily mean better. And now, with most of the engineers that were responsible for Telarc's great sound working for DHM who knows what to expect?
Original CD release on order (found it for less than $9 on Amazon). Will wait to see what the SACD release is like.

Scott
post #1241 of 3714
The Horenstein M3 is here from Amazon UK!

Now to press play and see what all the buzz is about...
post #1242 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkAngel
For the Doctor.........
I listened to my used copy of Abravanel Mahler 5,6 and found it most similar sounding to Inbal/Denon. There is a light clear transparent sound almost as if smaller forces are used which is good for illuminating small details of the score, but lacks a bit in comparison with less powerful transitions and climaxes and dramatic energy not quite up with best performances......will not replace anything in my recent list of best Mahler performances, but also definitely good enough to keep in collection especially at this budget used price.

The Caiman droogies notified me yesterday that my Abravanel 2,4 just shipped ( ) from FLA so still take a while to comment on Doc's beloved Mahler 4.......I do suspect Abravanel's style will fit better with 4th than 2,5,6 which require the high voltage dramatic effect to fully succeed.

Also just for research sake ordered used Slatkin/Telarc 2nd CD. I am not a fan of 1980's Telarc house sound CDs however which sounds soft and opaque to my ears almost like a misty fog rolled in during recording session. Also some early Telarc Cds had the dreaded "index" marks instead of tracks which makes CD navigation a real pain......will of course report when CD arrives
I don't think they used a smaller orchestra; I think what you are describing is the unique acoustics of the recording venue (the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City). No other recordings sound like Abravanel's for that reason. If you listen to Mormon Tabernacle Choir recordings made in the same building, you can hear the same effect. It's really remarkable; one can actually hear a pin drop from the other side of the hall, which seats thousands. It's like a giant seashell.

Sometimes the effect works, and sometimes it doesn't. The M4 is definitely my favorite in the cycle (although 7 and 9 are nice too, and his 8 is justifiably famous), a fact which has more than a little to do with the vocal soloist, Netania Devrath. She was born to sing the M4.

BTW: The Utah symphony doesn't record in the Tabernacle anymore - they have been in an incredible "new" hall, called Abravanel Hall, since the early 80s I think. The Tabernacle is still there and the choir still sings there regularly, although the rumor is that it's structurally unsound now. That's too bad because, like Kingsway Hall in London or St. Sulpice in Paris, the building has a famous sound identity all its own. Worth a visit of you are ever in SLC.
post #1243 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Scott,

You need an emoticon with a halo for doing something that utterly selfless!

Please let us know which edition gets the seal of approval. After the DG Beethoven sacd releases (both Kleiber and HvK) we are all aware that sacd doesn't necessarily mean better. And now, with most of the engineers that were responsible for Telarc's great sound working for DHM who knows what to expect?
Bunny,

It was actually the TelDEC fellows who are now with DHM. The TerARC crew has remained fairly steady over the years, occasionally adding new members. But I'll have to look at the small print to see exactly who oversaw the Ms reissue.

Mark
post #1244 of 3714
Mark,

You are correct and I stand (sit) corrected. Btw, there are supposed to be some interesting recordings under the label telDEX floating around, but I have never run across any of them. They are supposed to include another Harnoncourt recording of the Mozart symphonies as well. do you know anything about those?

My Horenstein has also arrived, and hopefully it will live up to all of the advance word.
post #1245 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Sarvis
I don't think they used a smaller orchestra; I think what you are describing is the unique acoustics of the recording venue (the Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City). No other recordings sound like Abravanel's for that reason. If you listen to Mormon Tabernacle Choir recordings made in the same building, you can hear the same effect. It's really remarkable; one can actually hear a pin drop from the other side of the hall, which seats thousands. It's like a giant seashell.

Sometimes the effect works, and sometimes it doesn't. The M4 is definitely my favorite in the cycle (although 7 and 9 are nice too, and his 8 is justifiably famous), a fact which has more than a little to do with the vocal soloist, Netania Devrath. She was born to sing the M4.

BTW: The Utah symphony doesn't record in the Tabernacle anymore - they have been in an incredible "new" hall, called Abravanel Hall, since the early 80s I think. The Tabernacle is still there and the choir still sings there regularly, although the rumor is that it's structurally unsound now. That's too bad because, like Kingsway Hall in London or St. Sulpice in Paris, the building has a famous sound identity all its own. Worth a visit of you are ever in SLC.
This is very interesting as I hadn't heard anything about St. Sulpice having such important accoustics. The interior of the Eglise de St. Jean Baptiste (French RC) in NYC is practically the same as St. Sulpice, but I've never heard of it being used for any recordings.
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