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post #1081 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Mark,
Don't drive 60 miles to buy a cd!
Barrie
unless you want to stop by for a visit. I think I saw the Chailly M9 at the Borders in Strongsville last night.

LMK.

-jar
post #1082 of 3714
Thread Starter 
Why not just join yourmusic.com for free and get Chailly/London Mahler 2,8,9 at $5.99 per CD? (plus lots of other classical stuff)

I am almost ready to give full disclosure of my new "find" in Mahler, it is better than I could have ever imagined......fans of the bold dramatic style of Bernstien/Sony will be estatic (I promise!)
post #1083 of 3714
Quick report, picked up M8 by Solti on Decca Legends. Sounds is wonderful, studio but very lively. This CD has sold the M8 to me in ways others haven't. I recommend it heartily. May pick up Kubelik down the line too, I always hear good things about the singing.

Scott
post #1084 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
Mark,

Don't drive 60 miles to buy a cd! Go to amazon.com or towerrecords.com. The cost of gas will more than pay for the shipping. Even living in the big apple, I usually buy online as the prices are so much better than in the brick stores. also, one can easily pick up used cds in excellent condition at a fraction of the cost of the new ones. Btw, as a professional reviewer, can't you expense out the cost of the recording?

Good luck!

Barrie
Ah, but browsing online does not give me the thrill of the sudden, unexpected surprise of having something catch my eye (yes, of course, I'm thinking of buying more than just that disc). Plus, I am so subject to waxing and waning enthusiasms that change more frequently than the tides, I much prefer being able to find something I want, take it in hand and then pop it on in the car for my first listen. Anyway, the drive's no biggy out here in the boondocks-- Everything's far away!

I can expense out the recording if I do a separate review of it, which I'm not sure yet if I'll do or not. I have a shelf full of other things pending. But I certainly want it for comparison purposes.

Mark
post #1085 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Why not just join yourmusic.com for free and get Chailly/London Mahler 2,8,9 at $5.99 per CD? (plus lots of other classical stuff)
Darkangel--

Did they add the SACD hybrid of the Chailly 9 since I last looked? When I last added to my queue, they only had the regular CD version. If I'm reviewing the SACD 5.1 version of the MTT, I'd like to be able to compare it directly to the same version of the Chailly.

Mark
post #1086 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Masonjar
unless you want to stop by for a visit. I think I saw the Chailly M9 at the Borders in Strongsville last night.

LMK.

-jar
Is that the one on Rt. 82?
post #1087 of 3714
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottder
Quick report, picked up M8 by Solti on Decca Legends. Sounds is wonderful, studio but very lively. This CD has sold the M8 to me in ways others haven't. I recommend it heartily. May pick up Kubelik down the line too, I always hear good things about the singing.

Scott
If you go for the Kubelik, try to get the SACD Audite recording. I have that on order (already have the dg set), and it is supposed to be wonderful. I'll be interested in hearing whether it is better than the Solti, which is my favorite.

Both of them really beat the Rattle by a long shot. I still can't understand how that has garnered such acclaim. I also have heard such conflicting things about the new Nagano, which appeals at this point only because it is in SACD.
post #1088 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Mark from HFR
Is that the one on Rt. 82?
yea, across from the Southgate mall, but now that I think about it, I don't remember if it was SACD or not.. doh! Either way, I would call them first.

One of those nights I just wanted to get out of the house for a while and drive around, didn't end up buying anything other than a mocha freeze and a magazine. Case of the old brain-freeze, couldn't remember what books or music were on my "list" hehehe.

-jar
post #1089 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Mark from HFR
I heard it, and it's quite well done. I would just rather hear the full-color orchestral version!

Mark
Thanks for the info, I will just have to try to decide whether it counts as Mahler or Walter. If it's Mahler I will have to get it!

The Hungaraton recording of the 1893 Weimar version of the 1st symphony has arrived today, it goes on to the to listen to pile along with Abbado's sixth and a Mahler 5 from Frank Shipway and the Royal Philharmonic.

HS
post #1090 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Bunnyears
If you go for the Kubelik, try to get the SACD Audite recording. I have that on order (already have the dg set), and it is supposed to be wonderful. I'll be interested in hearing whether it is better than the Solti, which is my favorite.

Both of them really beat the Rattle by a long shot. I still can't understand how that has garnered such acclaim. I also have heard such conflicting things about the new Nagano, which appeals at this point only because it is in SACD.
Do let us know what you think when you get the SACD, and how it compares to the set (is it a remaster as well?).

Scott
post #1091 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
I am almost ready to give full disclosure of my new "find" in Mahler, it is better than I could have ever imagined......fans of the bold dramatic style of Bernstien/Sony will be estatic (I promise!)
You tease!
post #1092 of 3714
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Originally Posted by scottder
Do let us know what you think when you get the SACD, and how it compares to the set (is it a remaster as well?).

Scott
Scott, the Audite are live recordings that were, I believe, broadcast over the radio and recorded in stereo. The DG recordings use the same orchestra but are studio recordings. The Audite although not as "perfect" in execution are considered more exciting and dynamic, so I am really looking forward to getting this one. I should already have had it, but I ordered from a European vendor (very good price) and I'm still waiting.
post #1093 of 3714
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Originally Posted by DarkAngel
Why not just join yourmusic.com for free and get Chailly/London Mahler 2,8,9 at $5.99 per CD? (plus lots of other classical stuff)

I am almost ready to give full disclosure of my new "find" in Mahler, it is better than I could have ever imagined......fans of the bold dramatic style of Bernstien/Sony will be estatic (I promise!)
You have my attention, and I am a bigger Wagner/Bruckner fan than Mahler. I am a pretty big Mahler fan, though.
post #1094 of 3714
I have listened to the 1893 version of Mahler 1 on Hungaraton, and it's interesting, nice brightish, clear recording. The differences between this version and the one we all know and love are pretty unimportant though. I think it's only really for those of who are sad enough to want to own recordings of every not of Mahler's music. People like me who get excited about a new recording of Mahler's piano quartet.

Also got round to listening to the new Abbado SACD of the sixth symphony. I thought it was very good, but I was still a bit dissapointed. Maybe I was expecting too much but I would definitely not put it ahead of the Bernstein on DG. It clocks in at just under 80 minutes so I don't know why it couldn't fit on one CD or SACD. The recording quality again is very good, but not spectacular, and the SACD layer is not a DSD recording, but 24 bit 48 kHz according to the booklet, despite having a DSD logo on the back cover. It's a good recording but not on the same level as the Decca Chailly Mahler 9, although Abbado's hammer blows do sound pretty spectacular. I'l have to listen to the Tilson Thomas and Zander SACDs to see how they compare.

So all in all both recordings are worth hearing, but I'm not sure I would put them at the top of some, admittedly, very tough competition.

And Bunnyears as for Rattle's Mahler Eight you should remember every Rattle recording is well received in Britain, especially in Gramophone and the Penguin Guide. The editor recently of Gramophone produced an editorial defending Rattle from the criticism he has been receiving for his work with the BPO. And the Penguin Guide's key recommendation for the Beethoven Symphonies is the Rattle cycle with the VPO.
post #1095 of 3714
I understand why Gramophon pushes Rattle's recordings, I just don't know how they sleep at night. Similarly, Classicstoday (USA) is pushing the Nagano M8, which has not gotten top ratings elsewhere (the Guardian has deemed both M8s flawed.)

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Originally Posted by Guardian Unlimited
Of the two, Nagano's version is marginally preferable, though neither generates the sheer excitement of Georg Solti's epoch-making Decca recording, or matches the ritual solemnity of Colin Davis's supremely beautiful performance for RCA.
Although I haven't heard the Davis, I have not heard it referred to favorably elsewhere! So, obviously critics have their own favorites and bias as do we all. In fact, if you go to Gramophon's forum , most of the comments from readers agree that they are underwhelmed by the Rattle, even if they don't mention the nagano.
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