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post #91 of 127

Most cooperative model. Ever. and red hot sexy!

 

 

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Edited by OneSec - 9/24/11 at 11:13am
post #92 of 127

It might be my ears, or it was really the new cable.

 

Those recording flaws seems more apparent now, especially so with those old remastered editions. Unfortunately most classical records I listen to falls under this category.

 

I switch back to the original cable, and those flaws were there, but somehow it didn't bother me as much as the new cable. Weird. Hmm... I starting to understand some people switch to later recordings (post 1996 at least) now... but honestly I still prefer old school presentation.

 

This might be an issue for me.

post #93 of 127
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Cool cable OneSec... I like the cap with larger hole, is this the Swithcraft mini plug?

 

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post #94 of 127

The head sure is. However with regards to the cap, the supply didn't release the source.

 

However I think switch craft does release new mini xlrs with large caps. You could refer here. I'm trying to get these, but hasn't been any luck on Internet, and swift craft wont sell direct.

 

If you fine places with these let me know!

 

http://www.switchcraft.com/productsummary.aspx?Parent=1037

post #95 of 127

I recheck stock the seem to have the silver plated ones.

TA3FSH and TA3FSHF

 

Don't understand the shield part though.


Edited by OneSec - 9/25/11 at 2:36am
post #96 of 127
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I recheck stock the seem to have the silver plated ones.

TA3FSH and TA3FSHF

 

Don't understand the shield part though.



What do you mean by "don't understand the shield part". My only concern is how well is the TA3FSH and TA3FSHF able to hold the Mogami W2534 in place... some got through hard times with the 4 conductor cable.

 

post #97 of 127

http://www.switchcraft.com/ProductSummary.aspx?Parent=1037

" added benefit of shielding from EMI and RF interference." - this one

 

So far I understand they provide a larger cap, with larger hole to fit larger cables. My feeling tells me that the version without flex relief should solve our problem.

http://my.mouser.com/catalog/catalogUSD/644/1291.pdf

 

Good news is that gold contact is also now available.

http://www.fullcompass.com/product/394671.html

 

as well as silver

http://my.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Switchcraft/TA3FSH/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMv0W4pxf2HiV4PG0S7l2Ms4MPY%2flAziGlc%3d

 

If you happen to grab any of those, share some pictures :D Interested in fullcompass's offering, but they dont accept non-US credit card :(

 

 


Edited by OneSec - 10/9/11 at 4:33pm
post #98 of 127
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I'll add more info about the double helix cable and other components and prices to build the K-702 cable, here if the info: http://www.head-fi.org/t/551233/deciding-on-cable-for-k702-double-helix-or-moon-audio/15

 

Quote from tdockweiler...

 

Here's where you can get the cable for $2.40 per foot. For the K702 I believe you need four 6" sections. I didn't buy it, but it comes out to $60. Of course one would need to buy the mini-XLR plug, heat shrink tubing, 1/4" plug and sleeving, but it's all very cheap.

 

http://doublehelixcables.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4&products_id=2

 

One strange thing I've noticed is that it listed the weight as 240lbs?! I sure hope they don't charge you for 240lbs worth of shipping postage!

 

The Cardas Starquad cable I found here:

 

http://www.takefiveaudio.com/mall/shopexd.asp?id=772

 

It's $8.40 per foot. I don't know if they're reliable and they're in Canada and I haven't tried checking elsewhere for Cardas cable. They sell an already made cardas cable for $208. It's probably $75-$100 if you DIY. I haven't added up the costs.

 

Anyone prefer the Double Helix cables to the Cardas cables?

Maybe I'll make one of them and compare to my Canare K702 and HD-650 cable I'm going to make this week regular_smile%20.gif

 

BTW if anyone knows a good source for bulk Cardas (starquad) cable in the USA (that's not Ebay), please post a link.

post #99 of 127

Wouldn't you only need 3 lenghts for the double helix? Left, right and ground - since the ground is split in the phone? Am I missing something? 

post #100 of 127

Split mode 4, otherwise 3 - I think.

post #101 of 127

Just an update after weeks of listening to my cable.

The sound become more engaging on the higher register, answering to my call for "violin and guitar screams", while maintaining the bass impact. I don't know it was my ears getting used to it, or the burn in really did the magic. I did prefer treble on stock cable. Maybe I'll do A-B someday and re-confirm that.

As Drew suggested the headband connection is a limiting factor, next up I'll doing a Y split base on Canare cable and I'm having difficult time to make up my mind to either solder them directly to the drivers or use a detachable mod. Bad news for detachable mod is that I probably can't the same cable for my future phones like HD650 / HD800, without modding them (makes me sweat thinking about modding a HD800).

 

Been extremely busy lately, hope I can put these together soon.

 

The existing cable I intend to pass along if people are interested in getting some impressions. Especially if someone can make some direct comparison with Mogami cable would be great. I might make another 2 cables from the left over material, and sell them at cost. I think these cables will benefit people who use PC as their source, since the noise reduction of these cables are noticeable better than stock cable. Downside: These cables are REALLY thick lol


Edited by OneSec - 10/9/11 at 6:08am
post #102 of 127
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Just an update after weeks of listening to my cable.The sound become more engaging on the higher register, answering to my call for "violin and guitar screams", while maintaining the bass impact. I don't know it was my ears getting used to it, or the burn in really did the magic. I did prefer treble on stock cable. Maybe I'll do A-B someday and re-confirm that.As Drew suggested the headband connection is a limiting factor, next up I'll doing a Y split base on Canare cable and I'm having difficult time to make up my mind to either solder them directly to the drivers or use a detachable mod. Bad news for detachable mod is that I probably can't the same cable for my future phones like HD650 / HD800, without modding them (makes me sweat thinking about modding a HD800).

 

Been extremely busy lately, hope I can put these together soon.

 

The existing cable I intend to pass along if people are interested in getting some impressions. Especially if someone can make some direct comparison with Mogami cable would be great. I might make another 2 cables from the left over material, and sell them at cost. I think these cables will benefit people who use PC as their source, since the noise reduction of these cables are noticeable better than stock cable. Downside: These cables are REALLY thick lol


Yes, some cables needs a minimum 10-20 hours of burn in. About the K-702 Y split cable, I really don't see the point if you're not going to drive with balanced hps amp.

 

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Yes, some cables needs a minimum 10-20 hours of burn in. About the K-702 Y split cable, I really don't see the point if you're not going to drive with balanced hps amp.

 


 

My cable sound really awful at 20-40 hour point, then it start to improve again passing that point. Balance hmm huh? Maybe down the road cause AMP its in my shopping list, just not sure balance or not.

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My cable sound really awful at 20-40 hour point, then it start to improve again passing that point. Balance hmm huh? Maybe down the road cause AMP its in my shopping list, just not sure balance or not.



To get the full balanced effect you'll need a balanced setup, balanced DAC or CD, as well a balanced amp with hps balanced output.

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To get the full balanced effect you'll need a balanced setup, balanced DAC or CD, as well a balanced amp with hps balanced output.



Correct, also I think it helps to have the L/R channels shielded, but I think you can use PTFE dielectric wire and sleeve them both independently. Loving this thread btw.

 

Onesec, you've got some real talent mang!

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