Originally Posted by OneSec
If you purely come from the diameter for the end fitting, there is no worry. My supplier was nice enough to give me a cap with larger hole at the back, cable diameter wasn't much of a problem, except during soldering.
Good news is, FIRST CABLE is done!! Using the following
SWITCHCRAFT TA3F mini XLR
Canare Star Quad Microphone cable: L-4E5C
Yeah the mini XLR is a little monster - fortunately I didn't go for thicker cable, otherwise it would be a lot of work there...
Overall impression with the original cable is that
- Overall the sound becomes more 'solid', more projectile, and more weighty.
- BASS impact has been become more prominent. Faster attack and umph! Bass has definitely improved in every way, quality and quantity.
- The cable somewhat makes the phone more musical - its very difficult to describe, but listening orchestra music, the double bass and cello range of frequency has been brought more forward, and I really feel the music 'mood'.
- My friend mentioned the cable actually improved the spacing, and better separation. However I personally didn't feel it.
- However things are rather different on the treble - it got a little recessed, so the violins and guitars don't "scream" as much as the original. I like 'harshness' on the higher register of the original cable.
- Details remain the same to me.
Overall its an improvement over the stock cable, and I think it will justify the improvement in almost every genre listening,
From discussion with my friend, he advised me to go for silver cable, which will give me the violin and guitar "screams" that I'm looking for. I'm poisoned and will continue to seek for my silver cable!! I hope silver cables will answer my call in search of a "piercing violin" cable.
Perhaps I will upload some photos later. Let's see run in will some magic to the treble... Yes now I'm definitely looking for my silver core cable!! Please recommend me!
P.S.: On my Essence ST, I used to play on High Gain with the original cable. With this new Canare cable, I can put it to Extra High Gain and the harsh sounds seems to went away.
Reporting back for progress that is more than 1 year ago... I've got my HD800 and Audio-gd Reference 10.32 (I'm on balanced setup now, thanks to Aaron's kind offer which comes with balanced cable). However in between those times I actually made another cable, and I noticed I have not shared with the forum. Here it is:
- SWITCHCRAFT TA3F mini XLR - I have got a different cap with a larger mount hole from my supplier in Malaysia, please check with your supplier yeah.
- FURUTECH FP-704G (Stereo) TRS
- GOTHAM 10405 - 10412 GAC-2 Ultraflexible OR Gotham 10502 GAC-2 PUR variation with ultrastrong PUR jacket (both are 5.4mm diameter) Don't remember the exact cable model, but from my memory GAC-2 Ultraflexible is a closer match. Gotham has Starquad and other balanced options as well.
I need to empahsis that these opinion are strictly personal taste, and please don't conceive this as advertisment for Gotham cable or Furutech. There are 2 variables, here, the Gotham cable vs Canare, plus the Furutech TRS vs Swiftcraft. Or it could be the mixing and match magic! To avoid bias, I will just mention new DIY and old DIY :)
It is a hands down upgrade for new DIY, I dropped my old DIY and just stick to it since then. Until... I've got my HD800. As far as I remember the freshly made new DIY is already as good as the old one (break-ed in), and with additional break in it just suppress old DIY in anyway. The difference between new DIY and old DIY is like the difference between stock cable and old DIY.
I will try to give some comparison based on the impression from Canare.
- Overall the sound becomes more 'solid', more projectile, and more weighty - More improvement.
- BASS impact has been become more prominent. Faster attack and umph! - New DIY Bass has definitely improved in every way, quality and quantity, but the harshness has been taken away, giving a warmish feeling but yet lively.
- The cable somewhat makes the phone more musical - its very difficult to describe, but listening orchestra music, the double bass and cello range of frequency has been brought more forward, and I really feel the music 'mood'. This is where the new DIY shines. "Strike the balance!" The new cable seems made a great balance on the frequency scales, blending the all frequencies together. I do not feel any of the frequency range particularly stands out - making it even more neutral, and musical.
- My friend mentioned the cable actually improved the spacing, and better separation. However I personally didn't feel it. - Don't feel it either on new DIY cable. After all I'm spoiled by my new phone :P
- However things are rather different on the treble - it got a little recessed, so the violins and guitars don't "scream" as much as the original. I like 'harshness' on the higher register of the original cable. See previous comment.
- Details remain the same to me. Remain the same.
While HD800 gets improved on Audio-GD Reference 10.32 over Asus Essence ST, the gab between 702 and HD800 seems to be lesser on Audio-GD than Asus Essence ST. This gives me a feeling that new DIY cable benefits more from a good amplification. K702 with the new DIY, like I quote to a fellow Head-fier: HD800's little brother.
Please dont flame me as again, strictly personal opinion. With all those said HD800 is still my top favorite.
If you are interested in trying other options, please consider the cable diameter, as the they may be too big for typical mini XLR connectors:
Note - They have mentioned this for loudspeakers, and probably not advisable cause it will add substantial weight.
Edited by OneSec - 2/13/13 at 1:43am