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Cleaning valve tubes - removing oxidation deposits

post #1 of 22
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I'm due to receive my first tube-based headphone amplifier and the manual recommends that I clean the tubes before using it for the first time. Isopropyl alcohol is recommended as the first stage in cleaning the pins on the tubes and then some sort of oxidation removing fluid. I have some isopropyl alcohol so that is no problem.

What is an 'oxidation removing fluid' and where could I buy some of this from (i'm in the UK if that helps)? Would regular 'HiFi contact cleaning fluid' do the same job?
post #2 of 22
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Originally Posted by taz View Post
I'm due to receive my first tube-based headphone amplifier and the manual recommends that I clean the tubes before using it for the first time. Isopropyl alcohol is recommended as the first stage in cleaning the pins on the tubes and then some sort of oxidation removing fluid. I have some isopropyl alcohol so that is no problem.

What is an 'oxidation removing fluid' and where could I buy some of this from (i'm in the UK if that helps)? Would regular 'HiFi contact cleaning fluid' do the same job?

Scrubbing the tube with a small wire brush works well .... followed by an application of a good contact cleaner like DeOxit. Just make sure you use a high temperature contact cleaner as the low temp types will cause a residue buildup that will gum up your tube sockets.
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post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
I have ordered some Deoxit, so thanks for that suggestion.

Is there a recommended technique for cleaning the pins on tubes? The manual for the amplifier suggests that the tubes should be cleaned and re-seated into their sockets before use.

I am new to tube amps.

I assume that I just pull up vertically to remove the tube? Also, is it important not to get any grease from fingertips onto the glass of the tube?

Finally, what is the best way to clean the pins themselves? Is it best to use a cotton bud coated with Deoxit?
post #5 of 22
Use a latex glove to avoid skin contact with the glass envelope. Skin oils on the glass reportedly cause "hot spots" when the tube reheats and brittleness at the point(s) of skin/glass contact.

To remove the tubes, grasping the tube around the base, I pull up while gently wiggling the tube base back and forth. This breaks up the contact friction a little at a time and avoids a violent break away from the socket.

I use an old, stiff bristle toothbrush lightly dampened with cleaning solution to initially scrub/clean the tube pins, then a swab.
post #6 of 22

Victor/BAT

Victor K, from Balanced Audio Technology, simply recommends taking the tube in and out of the socket several times to clean it. Nothing fancy but if he uses this method then it sounds good to me, although I can't resist a wire brush and De-oxit occasionally.
post #7 of 22
I use Flitz metal polish with a q-tip. Then I remove any polish residue with 91% isopropyl alcohol. It works for me.
post #8 of 22
How do you clean "between the teeth" on those small tubes? The pins are pretty close together. Is it necessary to clean the entire pin or just some of the pin?
post #9 of 22
I am new to the tube amp too. Nice info and tips here. Just ordered Deoxit. Thanks!
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by Orcin View Post
How do you clean "between the teeth" on those small tubes? The pins are pretty close together. Is it necessary to clean the entire pin or just some of the pin?
A Q-Tip fits easily between the pins. I clean the whole pin. The inside and outside should be sufficient though. After you are done removing oxidation. Clean off any residue with isopropyl alcohol.
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by pataburd View Post
Use a latex glove to avoid skin contact with the glass envelope. Skin oils on the glass reportedly cause "hot spots" when the tube reheats and brittleness at the point(s) of skin/glass contact.

To remove the tubes, grasping the tube around the base, I pull up while gently wiggling the tube base back and forth. This breaks up the contact friction a little at a time and avoids a violent break away from the socket.

I use an old, stiff bristle toothbrush lightly dampened with cleaning solution to initially scrub/clean the tube pins, then a swab.
The hot spots myth is nonsense. I know a guy we call OT "Old Timer". He has a radio that has had the same tubes in the amp for 25+ years. When you look at the radios tubes they look greasy. I said once, those tubes look like you put them in after you had some fried chicken. He said, " I did".

These guys laugh when they hear people use gloves to remove tubes and make lots of entertaining comments about what type of men use gloves to handle tubes. After hearing those comments I have I never used anything but my fingers again. Matt Ankers dad (Sacdmods) gets a kick out of this claim too. All these people have worked on tube equipment for decades.

Secondly, you should be very careful wiggling the tube back and forth when removing a tube or you will damage the tube socket .... especially with octals and porcelin tube sockets. Some people also dont have any idea of what gently means. I know this from watching people change tubes at meets.
post #12 of 22
Yeah, but at lesat you get the satisfaction of keeping your tubes nice and clean, and can look at the pretty labels, lol...who wants to look at greasy ol' fingerprints?

...and with that deeply insightful post, I've hit the 1,500 mark, and Headphoneus Supremus, lol...

I'd say maybe 150 of them were worth a damn, lol...
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by Golden Monkey View Post
Yeah, but at lesat you get the satisfaction of keeping your tubes nice and clean, and can look at the pretty labels, lol...who wants to look at greasy ol' fingerprints?

...and with that deeply insightful post, I've hit the 1,500 mark, and Headphoneus Supremus, lol...

I'd say maybe 150 of them were worth a damn, lol...
Congrats Golden Monkey. Just reached 1500 myself. 150 post with some useful info ain't that bad. I am lucky if I ever hit 15, but I have a long way to go
post #14 of 22
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Congrats Golden Monkey. Just reached 1500 myself. 150 post with some useful info ain't that bad. I am lucky if I ever hit 15, but I have a long way to go

LOL...We Headphoneus HD650 fans ROCK!




(there...another meaningless post...)
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by Golden Monkey View Post
Yeah, but at lesat you get the satisfaction of keeping your tubes nice and clean, and can look at the pretty labels, lol...who wants to look at greasy ol' fingerprints?

...and with that deeply insightful post, I've hit the 1,500 mark, and Headphoneus Supremus, lol...

I'd say maybe 150 of them were worth a damn, lol...
Congratulations, Golden! : ) I dream of Golden Monkey with the nice, clean tubes . . . and SACD Lover with Kentucky Fried 6922s . . .
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