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post #16 of 42
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U sure tone control and EQ is gonna do the same thing?
I have heard the Audigy 2 ZS with the tone control and it sounds much better than having to resort to an EQ.

The EQ dosen't give it the deep punch the tone control does.

Anyways its Vista Ultimate 32bit and I use WMP and WinAmp.

Thus far foobar seems to really be the best it makes the headphone rattle. But like I said using 2 EQ in both the media player and sound card control center at the same time the bass gets distorted. And not punchy as opposed to using a tone control slider.

Isn't the EQ software powered and the tone control hardware powered?
post #17 of 42
Tone control and EQ are both software based.

Dave
post #18 of 42
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Thus far foobar seems to really be the best it makes the headphone rattle.
I was waiting for that statement to confirm my suspicions.
post #19 of 42
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Yeah I have to admit foobar really impressed me. It makes winamp sound like crap.

I think I may need a receiver. hmm may need a headphone amp I guess.
post #20 of 42
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check this. This is what I talking about



you can clearly adjust bass and treble in this creative X fi card.
Something the Xonar lacks and it sucks if you ask me.
post #21 of 42
About foobar, as said by foobar's own development crew (here), it's NOT supposed to sound better than other players, as long as no DSP is being used.

Does foobar2000 sound better than other players?

No. Most of “sound quality differences” people “hear” are placebo effect (at least with real music), as actual differences in produced sound data are below their noise floor (1 or 2 last bits in 16bit samples). foobar2000 has sound processing features such as software resampling or 24bit output on new high-end soundcards, but most of other mainstream players are capable of doing the same by now.


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check this. This is what I talking about



you can clearly adjust bass and treble in this creative X fi card.
Something the Xonar lacks and it sucks if you ask me.
I believe this is done via software, so it's pretty much the same thing as an EQ, just done with a different interface, as someone said above...
And an EQ has the advantage that you have a better control over what you're doing.
post #22 of 42
EQ in X-Fi is hardware supported and not just software so the bass and treble controls are hardware and not just software. Software only EQ always creates lots of distortion.

X-Fi - World's Most Powerful Audio Processor

Included in the HW is support for the following filter types:
- off
- parametric EQ 4-parameter
- parametric EQ 5-parameter
- low-shelving
- high-shelving
- dual-shelving
- peak (band-pass)
- notch (band-reject)
- low-pass resonator
- high-pass resonator
- direct coefficient 4-parameter
- direct coefficient 5-parameter
post #23 of 42
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Originally Posted by milkweg View Post
EQ in X-Fi is hardware supported and not just software so the bass and treble controls are hardware and not just software. Software only EQ always creates lots of distortion.

X-Fi - World's Most Powerful Audio Processor

Included in the HW is support for the following filter types:
...
Hmm that's really cool, and it actually supports EQ too. In that case, the best idea would be to use the hardware EQ of the X-fi, I guess.

At least, what I said above still holds true for most other cases...

But still, I find it strange you need to EQ the bass to maximum in the Xonar to get your headphones to sound good... Is the HD555's bass that weak? Isn't there a chance of it being a problem with your Xonar?
post #24 of 42
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Originally Posted by Vitor Machado View Post
Hmm that's really cool, and it actually supports EQ too. In that case, the best idea would be to use the hardware EQ of the X-fi, I guess.

At least, what I said above still holds true for most other cases...

But still, I find it strange you need to EQ the bass to maximum in the Xonar to get your headphones to sound good... Is the HD555's bass that weak? Isn't there a chance of it being a problem with your Xonar?
Hmm I doubt may be something wrong with the Xonar cause my Z5500 sounds quite nice.

I know for sure u gotta turn the BASS on the EQ all the way up and enable dolby headphone and virtual 7.1. To bet good bass.

Maby the Xonar has a weak amp for driving headphones. Cause I can tell you the Creative sure as hell kicks @ss when it comes to driving a headphone.

However please note the XOnar sounds fantastic on loud speakers like the Z5500 it really does sound beautiful. Soooo clean it does live up to its name for 5.1 HT.

I did not know the Senns HD 555 was so hard to drive infact my bro 16 ohms skull candy ear buds get easier bass on the xonar than do the HD 555.

I am left to believe the Xonar cannot drive a 50 ohm and up headphone properly. Since I dont wann go and spend money now on any headphone amp I am gonna trade the Xonar for the Audigy 2 ZS that I sold my friend.

Also with foobar if you raise the bass EQ to high it distorts easily u gotta carefully adjust it. But its definitely better than WMP.
post #25 of 42
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Also with foobar if you raise the bass EQ to high it distorts easily u gotta carefully adjust it. But its definitely better than WMP.
Just keep in mind when using software EQs (and maybe some hardware ones too? I'm not sure about these), that you should NOT go above 0 db, or you're risking to apply distortion.
You should make your adjustments, and then make sure you're at or below 0db, by pressing the Auto Level button in the foobar EQ. In other cases where there's no Auto Level button, one should do it manually.

What happens when you put it above 0 db, is that you might force music to go beyond limits when the signal reaches peak values. This is know as clipping.
post #26 of 42
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lol i see well I had mine way above 0db lol

I will however be trading the Xonar for a Audigy 2 ZS anyways. Will use that for the time then may purchase the creative X fi elite pro one day. Or the other one Fatal1ty.

But asus is releasing a new Xonar STC or something so mainly aimed at headphones. I think that will be interesting.
post #27 of 42
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BTW Vitor Machado

been meaning to ask you. Does brazil have lots of women that look like Shakira?

I heard they got a lot of white latinas there in south America right?

I have to admit I got pretty hooked on Shakira and I need to find myself a woman like that. I was told Brazil has some nice latinas like her.

Also Florida aswell? Plenty Colombians there.

Dude I never seen a woman with an @ss like shakira check this pic

YouTube - syam1000's Channel

The background there on that user. DAMN!!!!!!!
What a woman.
post #28 of 42
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Originally Posted by john5220 View Post
Yeah I know about the 10Band EQ I already pumped the bass all the way plus enabled dolby headphones and virtual 7.1 which sounds much better.
Oh DEAR.
post #29 of 42
post #30 of 42
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Originally Posted by john5220 View Post
BTW Vitor Machado

been meaning to ask you. Does brazil have lots of women that look like Shakira?

I heard they got a lot of white latinas there in south America right?

I have to admit I got pretty hooked on Shakira and I need to find myself a woman like that. I was told Brazil has some nice latinas like her.

Also Florida aswell? Plenty Colombians there.

Dude I never seen a woman with an @ss like shakira check this pic

YouTube - syam1000's Channel

The background there on that user. DAMN!!!!!!!
What a woman.
Haha, well I guess you could say yes... Of course not all of them are beautiful like Shakira, but you can find some.

Brazil is in Latin America you know (although we don't speak spanish, we speak brazilian portuguese. And the accent is TOTALLY different from Portugal's), so yes, there are plenty of latinas here.
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