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post #7996 of 8081
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Originally Posted by classicjazz View Post

I've found the IE8s to be muffled and have a wooly midrange and an unacceptable thickness. Maybe I will try the tape mod. After using full size Sennheiser cans, I had high hopes for these. I was an early adopter and they've been sitting unused in a drawer for the last few years. Definitely not in the same league as my Shure SE5/535 series. 
I've been listening to the IE8's for a few years now. I suggest that you give them time. They do have strengths. I found that they like a very clean source and a good amp.
post #7997 of 8081
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

Has nothing to do with trusting Sennheiser imo, people just have different preferences and the IE8's mid bass hump isn't everyone's cup of tea.
What I meant to say is that I trust Sennheisers designers to get the best out of their design.
post #7998 of 8081

How does the IE8 compare with the IE800?

post #7999 of 8081
I have both.

Ie800 beats ie8 in every way except-
Ability to wear over ear.
Microphonics of cable.
£40 upgrade for iPhone controls.
Confidence (ie8s rarely fall out of ears
Fully replaceable cable.

If I had only IE800, I would not need to buy the 8s though.

Not enough time to describe detailed sound differences. Ie800 is a good competitor to JH13. Ie8 is a great listen though. Convenience of ie8 wins over JH13 but is only 60% of SQ. Ie800 is 95% of JH13 SQ.

I haven't done the tape mod though so thatch get them a bit closer.

Regards

Sceptre
post #8000 of 8081

Interesting... Really need to hear the IE800 one day

post #8001 of 8081
I found it impossible to get a seal with the 800's without holding them into my ears.
From what I heard it was as if the hump had shifted from mid bass to lower bass.
Very expensive. I'm sure there is better out there for less money.
post #8002 of 8081

Sennheiser bungled the IE800 in my opinion. The IE800s to me, taken as a package is  a grossly missed opportunity. The bass is a bit much, but  I could've  lived with it, as it's more sub-bass. Vocals are perhaps the best I've heard in an earphone. However, the treble is what I cannot quite come to terms with. The presentation of the IE800 is wonderfully coherent, akin to that of its predecessor, the IE8, but I know treble should't sound like that. So even though it offers an engaging listen, I was irked by its treble reproduction. Even if Sennheiser had retained the IE8s treble, which I view as not over-emphasized, but of very good quality, I'd probably have the IE800s now.

post #8003 of 8081
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post
 

 

Has nothing to do with trusting Sennheiser imo, people just have different preferences and the IE8's mid bass hump isn't everyone's cup of tea. Why not try to tame it when there's a lot to like about these phones apart from that single "flaw"?

 

Anyone who has an Android device might also want to try Neutron Player with the following EQ settings (that's how I use my IE8 on the go these days):

 

 

So James444 the IE8s still get ear time even with your manifold stock or IEMS?

 

I'm usually loath to using EQ for the simple reason that I end up constantly tinkering with it instead of really focusing on the music. Nevertheless, I've applied the settings that you've shared, to the sony Z1060 walkman, and I'll definitely keep them. So thanks for sharing. The immediate psycho-acoustic effect I get in switching back and forth from no EQ to your settings, is that the sound is noticeably clearer/cleaner/distinct. Not a mind blowing difference, of course, but quite notable. When nothing is applied, it seems that the emphasised mid-bass impregnates the entire sound field with a sense of warmth. Combine this with a laid-back attack, and a romanticised decaying of lingering notes, then instrument separation or sound localisation can come across as diffused. Applying the EQ doesn't change the sound signature, but tames the bass a tad, which results in a blacker background, and a sense of increased focus. That is, the sound is less obtuse, at least, that's how I see/hear it...


Edited by HONEYBOY - 11/22/13 at 10:56am
post #8004 of 8081

That's a great description of my EQ settings, couldn't have said it better! Yes, I try to use EQ rather cautiously and avoid going against the nature of the drivers.

 

I know what you mean with tinkering, but Neutron's EQ supports user presets, so I end up spending time only once to figure out my preferred settings (for a given IEM), then save them as a named preset and afterwards just select the preset on the go.

 

As for ear time: the IE8 are overall still among the best made IEMs I know. There's just so much to like about them, the build quality, the cable, the comfort. They don't mind to be shoved into my jeans pocket when I'm out and about and they even survived a full hour in the washing machine. I love the fact that I can switch to a short cable for my wireless headset and that I can lie down comfortably on the side with them.

 

They still have one of the best soundstages in business and honestly, apart from their mid-bass opulence there's really not much that I can criticize about them sonically. Of course five years is quite a long time and many IEMs have appeared that beat them in certain aspects, but as a whole, I still regard them as one of the best thought-out portable audio products I've come across.

post #8005 of 8081

^ I have to disagree with the sonical description there. No matter how I EQ or mod them, they just sound underwhelming in almost every aspect. The build quality is great though.

post #8006 of 8081

^ Well, they're tuned to sound underwhelming. That's their weakness and their strength. ;) 

post #8007 of 8081
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post
 

^ Well, they're tuned to sound underwhelming. That's their weakness and their strength. ;) 

 

Good description of IE8 vs. example of overwhelming >  1plus2's  

post #8008 of 8081

Has anyone tried this silver cable:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Top-Quality-120cm-Earmax-IE80-Silver-Audio-Cable-wire-for-Senn-heiser-IE8-IE80-IE81-DIY/1480826350.html

or

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Handmade-1-2m-Silver-Plated-OFC-Hifi-Cable-For-Sennheiser-IE8-IE80-earphone-headset/1218680197.html

 

And for those that have or have something similar, does it change the sound signature? I'd like to bring out some treble and mids on mine :(

post #8009 of 8081
^ They are not all silver they silver plated copper...big difference, especially the price.
post #8010 of 8081

Oh, my bad. Do you think those would change the sound sig at all? o:

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