Leaving portable hifi - it's too silly - Page 11

I don't know how to respond to this anymore without getting banned.

let alone this

Also, in response to this note:

"I agree with that fact that well, portable setups can't even get close to decent home setups really. That said though, the space taken by home setups = bigger more complex circuits which not surprisingly results in higher SQ. One's got to take into account portability and space when making circuits for portable amps. That sacrifices more complex circuits (unless you want your costs to skyrocket) which sacrifices SQ. "

Portable amp space and design is not being maximized, at all. Really, not a lot of thought is going into portable amps. Rooting yourself in the notion of smaller size as the only possible explanation for the shortcomings of these portable components is not advisable

And I still see a lot of people equating sound that stomps portable as having to be top of the line (you must be unfamiliar with any part of the line when it comes to a home setup) and/or expensive. You're wasting a chance to discover better sound by clinging to a limited portable experience. I'm sure it sounds good to you - just like Bose would sound good to your random non-audiophile person off of the sidewalk

My devious motives revealed!

I've had maybe 15 people (who haven't posted here) PM me about this post so far - half are privately voicing their full support and agreement, the other half have questions about their gear. I've talked to a few people on MSN, too.

I'm evil!

That I feel strongly about something and it conflicts with your take does not mean I am on a mission to spread misery

Should I change the title to "Cohesive conversation, potentially subject to expansive topic exploration pertaining to portable hifi"

Would it be okay for us to keep talking to each other, then?


In your opinion, can't I have an opinion that differs from your opinion? In my opinion, I more than can. And we also have differing opinions on the idea that we are supposed to lay down and accept each others opinions in silence.

I think our opinions are intimately doomed to fail with each other, quspycakes

Maybe this is all just my opinion, though



Here is something of conversational importance - Behold!



Now that's a small amp.

My thoughts on it when I first saw it (earlier tonight) were mixed. It's tiny in every dimension. Surely weighs nothing. And Flywheel design is an obvious plus for a portable amp as far as theory that involves it actually being portable goes.

But, it's ins and outs are on the side of it as it'd run parallel underneath your player.. which is sure to lead to a somewhat awkward and vulnerable placement of the LOD or mini-to-mini used.

What really strikes out for me, though, is this: Look at the amp design. Despite the feat of minimal size - how far off are we now from an iPod's amp? No doubt this sounds better, but by how much? I mean, there's probably three forths of a square inch of amp circuitry, the rest is battery, flywheel volume control and signal paths. Edit: and a baby gain switch etc hanging out in the corner there

Is it even worth upgrading from the iPod (or other) amp in such a small manner?

It's $100, and it surely sounds worse than their Minibox F which sells for $69. So you have something quite obviously less than a $69 portable amp's performance. And that $69 amp also includes an AC charger, a USB cable, a leather carrying case and a mini-to-mini cable - keep this in mind when considering what's left to be payed for out of the Minibox F that trumps the $100 tinypie.

Well, it's more convenient to me, it must be worth more, even though the components are fewer, on a board smaller, in an enclosure smaller!

Everything about this is illlllllogical.


Have I made the trend clearer for anyone?

What can I do when everyone that already owns a portable rig isn't willing to consider that they've not gone the most informed route. Well, not everybody. I reference myself and so very many others on this thread that are at least willing to risk having been less informed so as to become more informed.

If your priorities are the ignorant contentment of whatever it is that's already fulfilling you - then we just have a core difference in values, as some of us are concerned with a more definite reality of things. Which does not mean that we feel that personal tastes do not exist, we're just, seemingly, a little more open to their being angles involving definite truths that are also in play.

Personally, I would say primarily in play.

If your priorities are with what's real, then I have to implore you to consider far more angles to life than subjectivity. And to be aware of what kind of situations the subjectivity cards get used. Subjectivity has a very long history of convenience to the self.

What more can I say to a pair of fellow hobbyists intent on making me concede strictly on the notion of personal taste w/ithout having themselves made any sort of bother on the merits of design and definite truths

I just won't rollover and accept "personal taste" alone without having explored the aspects that are the most rock-solid to me. Especially when I have at all points in this thread been in acknowledgment of what you are resting your claims for possibility that I'm full of it on.


I'm just not rolling over for that, guys - Especially when I have a brain that really feels like it knows exactly what is going on here.


I don't think we have much else to discuss on the matter of opinions


So, if we could, get back to portable hifi? I'm still interested on the minibox d / f stuff I wrote on - I'd like to hear from others