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post #436 of 767
@EEXO

Thanks for the support. Things that happened can't be undone, unfortunately. I have already made up my mind about leaving the diyLOD thread. Those who are interested will have to continue the discussion w/o me. I certainly don't want to be dragged over the same mud again.

Fuze is a great little player and Sandisk support has been really good too. For a man who spent the better half of the last 4 years* watching my beloved iriver sink into the bottom of the sea with ever fancier unpractical design, ever lower SQ and almost non-existing tech support, I can't tell you how much I really appreciate what I have now. (*At one time, I were mod of three different iriver forums)

@soozieq
There could be the problem of the version of ID3 tag used, or maybe it is because the jpg file is progressively encoded? Some player are picky about those.
post #437 of 767
-Not relevant anymore-
post #438 of 767
...and the only guy who keep coming back for more is the guy who never did listen to the diyLOD. Kind of ironic, don't you think so?

I have always been in a neutral position. I states what I prefer, not what I think is better. If you read the prelude of that thread, you will know that I have stood by the same position from the beginning. "IMO, it really boils down to personal taste and how one perceives what is the most natural sound." If you have to put words into my mouth or twist mine for your benefit, that can't be helped. However, that same opinion of mine still stands with me today, as is before anyone even think of trying to sell anything.

My initiative is to help more people exploring the possibility, and it has been achieved. As I said, those who did try the LOD themselves with come back with their feedback and time will tell what the public opinion is. Regardless of whether it is negative or positive, I will accepted them as they are, even though I won't respond to them anymore.

If you want to drag it deeper, do so yourself. In respect to others, I won't be responding to your comments anymore. Enough, forever.

To others, I am sorry all the thread crapping.
post #439 of 767
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Originally Posted by jm50 View Post
I have had a problem with a few jpegs not showing on the fuze, I opened them up in photoshop then saved as jpeg, they now show up fine on the fuze. I have all my covers at 200x200 pixels, I have them embedded in the mp3's, I also save them in the album folders and named "album art".
The mystery is that they are all jpegs and they've already been resized in Photoshop. And I've named them all 'album art' and saved them in the album folder. Before I whined about it in this thread... ... I'd already researched elsewhere and done everything that was suggested. Strange thing is, that I swapped a couple of 'invisible' covers for new ones and they displayed without a problem. So maybe I'll delete the suspect ones and replace them.

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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
@EEXO

@soozieq
There could be the problem of the version of ID3 tag used, or maybe it is because the jpg file is progressively encoded? Some player are picky about those.
Hi ClieOS, yes, I read about that in one of the Sandisk forums. I think I'll just go ahead and replace anything that isn't showing with some new covers. Even though the screen is small, I don't like to see a music note staring out at me instead of the cover. It's just wrong
post #440 of 767
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
It was never about the docks, average_joe, it was about promoting them on the forum and then selling them for profit.

But since Jude is on the job, I have nothing more to say about this.

I still have a hard time, however, understanding how you can clearly hear improvements over the headphone out, with your fio while I can barely hear a difference, if any, with my GS-1,.....

But wait, your dock must sound light years better than the Griffin.

That's why yukihiro posted "I notice the most difference (which is minimal) while using my iBasso D10 to my Grado SR325i/Yuin G2A headphones."

USG

Team Go For The Money
I still have not put together my own LOD, although I have the part.

I DO have a Griffin dock and I don't like it, I think it colors the sound (output caps issue I suppose) I just use the dock as a charging stand now and use headphone out when I use an amp. If would not surprise me to find a DIY LOD sounding better than the Griffin, better (or no) caps would make a big difference.

Maybe this discussion will motivate me to finally put together my own adapter so I can do the comparison.
post #441 of 767
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Originally Posted by Earwax View Post
I still have not put together my own LOD, although I have the part.

I DO have a Griffin dock and I don't like it, I think it colors the sound (output caps issue I suppose) I just use the dock as a charging stand now and use headphone out when I use an amp. If would not surprise me to find a DIY LOD sounding better than the Griffin, better (or no) caps would make a big difference.

Maybe this discussion will motivate me to finally put together my own adapter so I can do the comparison.
Hi Earwax

When I did my comparisons I also found that the Griffin dock was not as good as the headphone jack, but on my dock the differences were very small. I have 2 docks and use one every day in my office connected to a stereo. Although not quite as good as the CD player it replaced, it holds 16 gigs and is more convenient . The other dock remains at home and is indeed a very good charging stand, as the difference between the Fuze and a computer HD is enormous.

I have also noticed another thing. My V1 Fuze seems to sound better with 320mp3 files than it does with flac files. What is your experience with this? The same song ripped from a CD into 320 and flac.... what do you hear? Is the mp3 slightly louder and brighter with a little more detail?

It will be interesting to read your comments about the dock you're building. I'm most curious to see if you get results similar to yukihiro.

USG
post #442 of 767
USG what busieness are you talking about ? selling 5 or 6 DIY LODs in total? come on...
ok, the guys were a bit too enthusiastic maybe, and what else ? they're not like smugglers or anything like that. decent head-fiers. I'm a 100percent sure.

I very appreciate your efforts to draw attention to this matter as there's a good chance that the improvement is very little that easily can be just placebo effect
but hey, let the people have their placebo, ok ?
No.
but you should really try that custom LOD before you throwing strong words like that to other people.

with all respect:
Selkin
post #443 of 767
and just to add, I was about to change the clip to the fuze so I can do proper file browsing and even use the LO but after reading this I just wont risk to waste my time and money on the Fuze. I don't really prefer the sound of the Clip.
I'll keep it as a backup DAP, and for that the clip is perfectly fine I think.
However I'm sorry I didn't get the Fuze 8GB for £15 more.

thanks USG to help me decide
post #444 of 767
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
I have also noticed another thing. My V1 Fuze seems to sound better with 320mp3 files than it does with flac files. What is your experience with this? The same song ripped from a CD into 320 and flac.... what do you hear? Is the mp3 slightly louder and brighter with a little more detail?

It will be interesting to read your comments about the dock you're building. I'm most curious to see if you get results similar to yukihiro.

USG
I don't use 320 mp3s. My old rips were lame VBR and new ones are ogg vorbis VBR. Since you asked, I loaded some FLAC files and I hear no problems with them. If anything, the flac version is louder than the ogg, otherwise I can't tell a difference. [the fuze has firmware version 1.02.26A]
post #445 of 767
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Originally Posted by Earwax View Post
I don't use 320 mp3s. My old rips were lame VBR and new ones are ogg vorbis VBR. Since you asked, I loaded some FLAC files and I hear no problems with them. If anything, the flac version is louder than the ogg, otherwise I can't tell a difference. [the fuze has firmware version 1.02.26A]
Hi EW

That's not what I meant.

The experiment is to rip a very familiar track from a CD into flac and also into 320mp3 with EAC, then compare them on the Fuze........

USG
post #446 of 767
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Originally Posted by upstateguy View Post
Hi EW

That's not what I meant.

The experiment is to rip a very familiar track from a CD into flac and also into 320mp3 with EAC, then compare them on the Fuze........

USG
Yes, I realize that wasn't exctly the test you proposed, but I used the files I already had ripped to both flac and ogg. It was enough of a test to convince me that there's no defects in flac playback on the Fuze, but maybe the volume is not perfectly matched to compressed playback.
post #447 of 767
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Originally Posted by Earwax View Post
Yes, I realize that wasn't exctly the test you proposed, but I used the files I already had ripped to both flac and ogg. It was enough of a test to convince me that there's no defects in flac playback on the Fuze, but maybe the volume is not perfectly matched to compressed playback.
I don't detect any defects in flac playback, just that my Fuze seemed to do slightly better with the 320mp3 files. Maybe it's just a volume thing, but I'm not sure, which is why I brought it up.

Another thing, does your Fuze play your flac fliles louder than mp3 or the other way around?

And I agree, it does a great job with ogg.

One more thought. Does the Fuze use more battery power to decode flac files than mp3? I thought I noticed that my computer cpu usage was higher playing flac than it was playing mp3s. Maybe not, whaddayathink?

USG
post #448 of 767
i noticed some flacs are prepared badly, so they can sound worst than a good ripped 320kbps mp3, on the other hand, there is nothing better than a good >800kbps FLAC on the Fuze, IMO
post #449 of 767
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
@soozieq
There could be the problem of the version of ID3 tag used, or maybe it is because the jpg file is progressively encoded?
Thanks ClieOS. That turned out to be exactly what it was!! All the ones that didn't display were either 'baseline optimised' or 'progressive', so I just checked 'baseline standard' and lo and behold, all my covers displayed
post #450 of 767
I'm thinking of buying one of these, well worth it??
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