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post #91 of 1672
The difference here is they are designed for mobility, so its likely that most pairs will show significant signs of use in 3-4 years time. The ones people keep sealed will probably be worth an unusually high amount more than used ones, would be my guess.

If I really like these, I'll probably try to get at least one more pair for personal backup.
post #92 of 1672
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Hi all, thank you for the comments on my pics.
Over the last weekend, I was on travel and I was mainly moving around by car, so I did not have enough time on the ESW10JPN. However I can update some.

Last year, I wrote ESW9 and SR71 is a good combo. This time, I found ESW10 and SR71A is a great combination as well. Adding iMod and ALO CryoXsilver to them, the synergy is awesome as if it were as designed.
I'd say the improvement over the ESW9 is not in analytical way. ESW10 is richer, smoother and never being fatiguing. I did not even think the ESW9 is harsh, but by comparing to the ESW10, it's another story.
I think this ESW10/SR71A combo sounds engaging like decent audio gears, it's sounding fairly pleasant to my ears.

> How did you actually managed to get it early

Just they arrived one day earlier to the store, no magic.
Audio technica cans usually arrives so.

> Now that the ESW10 is out, how are the chances we will see an even better limited portable headphone

It's likely as you said. Next one could be a leather head portable or a titanium portable, God only knows.
Will I purchase it again? God only knows

> upload some in higher res wall paper, 1920x1200

I will think about it but to clean up a big image is somewhat harder..

> Moved to Portable Headphones forum

Oops I forget it, thank you.
Anyway we will eventually need a hi-end portable forum
post #93 of 1672
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Originally Posted by SR-71Panorama View Post
The difference here is they are designed for mobility, so its likely that most pairs will show significant signs of use in 3-4 years time. The ones people keep sealed will probably be worth an unusually high amount more than used ones, would be my guess.

If I really like these, I'll probably try to get at least one more pair for personal backup.

I imagine, if they're sporting them like the ESW9s that lamb-skin earpads will be tough...also Protein leather headband[?]. Guess the way the ear-cups twist would loosen.
Also wood is pretty unforgiving to scratches. Scratched me ESW9s being really careful;
post #94 of 1672
USPS site shows they are already delivered, but the guy does not come here to the office until 1ish. I guess they mean delivered to the delivery truck. Was hoping to give them a listen during lunch. Guess that will be an after work session. Will give a stab with taking a photo of them with my W5000s.
post #95 of 1672
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USPS site shows they are already delivered, but the guy does not come here to the office until 1ish. I guess they mean delivered to the delivery truck. Was hoping to give them a listen during lunch. Guess that will be an after work session. Will give a stab with taking a photo of them with my W5000s.
Looking forward to it.
post #96 of 1672
Got'em now and listening..they are beautiful and by the way they sound good as well.

I really enjoy these lightweight units like the ESW9 and now the ESW10. They do have much more image presentation than the ESW9. The bass is not as noticeable but still there so that makes them more precise in my book.
post #97 of 1672
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3 or 4 years from now, I reckon ESW10JPN will be one of those sought after, renowned headphones that people will be paying a LOT for to try and get in good condition second hand, for those who missed it
Save your box, manual, and pouch!
post #98 of 1672
Got my phones.

Straight out of my 5th Generation Ipod headphone jack, here are my first impressions. Most are while listening to Duke Ellington and Ray Brown’s “This One’s For Blanton”. Technically I plugged the headphones in while the ipod was playing some Steely Dan.

Sign in Stranger (quick 30 second Steely Dan audition): This is the first closed phone I’ve put on my head in some months, having sold my seldom-used D2000 a while back. I do notice a slight hint of boxiness, all else ok. There is some very deep bass response going on, yet not boomy, muddy, slow or out of balance. OK, off I go to Duke. I’ll start at the second song, to avoid the slow interlude of the first track.


Pitter Panther Patter: upper register piano is clear as a bell. The phone seems to retain dimensionality and complexity. The bass is very controlled. The best I’ve ever heard in a small headphone. Ray Brown always goes all over the neck on his bass, and the upper register bass notes retain all the detail and warmth. This is where I’ve heard other phones get a little washed-out. The hint of boxiness from Steely Dan is all but gone now.
Things Aint What They Used To Be:
Same results. Some of the slaps of the bass that are focused on the center of the stereo image, it becomes apparent I’m wearing headphones; it hints at the “sound is inside your head” sensation. Not necessarily a bad thing, and easy enough to get re-acquainted with.
Sophisticated Lady:
One thing these phones seem to do is be very revealing of instrument location. I can tell very easily when an instrument is panned to a new area, such as from left to right. Its rendered in a different way than my open HD650s. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but its almost as if Ray Browns’ bass hits have a slight crackle quality here and there. I guess the tone of the bass is less about euphonics and more about detail. But its not a cold sound at all, so its difficult to explain. I’m hesitant to say it has more detail than the HD650, but perhaps that is the case here. Remember, this is straight out of a 60GB 5G ipod; no amp whatsoever.
See See Rider/Fragmented Suite for Piano and Bass:
This headphone just nails piano tone. Perhaps just a little less of the fundamental tone than the HD650, and a speed increase. I think adding an amp may get back that slight thickness or heft of the initial piano notes. It’s a subtle difference. All the sound is closed in the headphones, and that can give an impression of a bigger difference in tone from time to time. The fact that the headphone is closed is definitely the only obvious difference. I suppose that’s also why I can pickup Duke’s voice better out of the background. This phone seems to reach further back in a way.
Second Movement:
OK, now one thing I can notice is a slight loss of dynamics compared to the HD650s. There is a set of chords that Duke really pounds into the keyboard, which get quite loud on the Sennheisers. The volume doesn’t exhibit quite the same increase on the ESW10s. Its still dynamic enough, just not quite the same way as my senns. I’m probably not being quite fair to these, as they aren’t benefiting from the same tube amp. Still, to get this close without an amp is pretty awesome, and far more practical for use at the office, which is where I plan on keeping these.

I think that should give a good brief first impression. I can definitely see why these were recommended for jazz. They really nail piano, and manage to get the tone of the upright bass correct without getting unbalanced or boomy. Not even a remote hint of sloppiness in the bass.

Here are some quick snapshots. Excuse the lack of focus, and the mess.
With PX100s

With HD650s

View another angle here
post #99 of 1672
Very nice.

When you get a chance to listen to some more Steely Dan, please post your impressions. I have quite a few of his CD's.



Thanks!
post #100 of 1672
IMHO, these phones are going to change their sound signature drastically with some time, so early impressions are not really what these phones are going to sound like in their lifetime of service.

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Steely Dan...I have quite a few of his CD's.
Just for the record, Steely Dan is a "they", not a "he".
post #101 of 1672
These were just meant as first impressions from my part. Id expect some changes around 20 hours in, and when paired with an amp. I'm definitely pleased with them, and I doubt that much will change. Very very nice detail right from the start.

I'm definitely going to purchasing a second pair.
post #102 of 1672
Just got mine

I was wondering about the comments on improved (larger) soundstage in previous comments while the construction seemed basically the same compared to the ESW9.
I always thought that the overall construction was more responsible for soundstage than the driver itself.
The trick seems to be in the leather ear pads - they are stuffed with a filling that is more sturdy than ESW9 that as such seems to keep the driver further from the ear.
So far as it seems to me.

In case anyone wondered (I certainly did) there is no serial number on the phone itself indicating the limited run - but there is a small paper clip on the back of the package which in my case says 0840. Maybe that's an indication...?
post #103 of 1672
How is the isolation with these? I need a new pair of portables...
post #104 of 1672
in my view the isolation is "fair". Fine for an office environment - not too much leakage and reasonable blocking. It seems unchange compared to ESW9 - not a surprise I guess.
Not suitable for a noisy environment like a plain or most underground trains.
Less isolation than circumaural portables - less than e.g. my HFI 780.
post #105 of 1672
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Originally Posted by suikodenii View Post
In case anyone wondered (I certainly did) there is no serial number on the phone itself indicating the limited run - but there is a small paper clip on the back of the package which in my case says 0840. Maybe that's an indication...?
maybe, maybe not. may also be an indication for the time it was made ... 08 being the year of production. (40: the week? would be very close to its time of sale) ---
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