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post #466 of 782
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Originally Posted by lmilhan View Post
I weep for our future.
X2
post #467 of 782
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
what?......
Some of the best hip hop I've listened to generally hasn't come from any native English speaking country. The French,Russian and Polish hip hop I've found is absolutely mind bending.
post #468 of 782
and what really makes it so much more mind bending... since they all try to copy NY.
post #469 of 782
Hip-hop is indeed getting worse, but there are still many artists that stay true; Elzhi, GZA, Nas, Madlib/MF Doom, Immortal Technique, etc..

But of course, I haven't met any people irl that listen to them + old school... Dr. Dre, Wu-Tang Clan, Mobb Deep
post #470 of 782
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Originally Posted by sahwnfras View Post
and what really makes it so much more mind bending... since they all try to copy NY.
Not in the least,they have their own style. Listen to it,you'll see.
post #471 of 782
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Originally Posted by 928GTS View Post
Not in the least,they have their own style. Listen to it,you'll see.
You aren't making any recommendations, so that's a bit hard.

The simpleness and banality of the rap hater's arguments is making me sick. The people that rage against the popular rappers are the same ones that go listen to Radiohead and Coldplay two seconds later... The hypocrisy is frightening.
post #472 of 782
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Originally Posted by EyeAmEye View Post
Those Papoose "lyrics" are absolutely terrible. I'm no fan of rap music, but I'm certain there has to be better than that.
I guess you can write like that too?
I guess you can use the grammar structure of Dr. Seuss books and make it into a hard hitting sounding song? Eminem 'The Way I Am' chorus.
I'm guessing you also have the ability to infuse comedic situations and hard-hitting subjects into a song + storytell (too many examples Eminem wise).
There's a reason why the Marshall Mathers LP is rated highly by many reputable reviewers (e.g. Rolling Stone, Robert Christgau) and is even appreciated on an English language academic level.

Anyway here:

Organized Konfusion - Releasing Hypnotical Gases

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As you look from whenceforth I come; riding the wind
thus eliminating competition from bird's eye view I'm
descending in helicopters in a village raid
Flesh will burn when exposed to the poetical germ grenade
I'm highly intoxicating your mind when I'm operating
on cell wars to membranes cytoplasms to protoplasms
Disintegrate em eliminate em now no one has em in battle
I display a nuclear ray that'll, destroy bone marrow in cattle
Thereby destroying the entire food supply
that's crawling with AIDS, maggots, flies
It's ironic, when a demonic, government
utilizes bionics and a six million dollar man to capture me
Clever, however; you could never ever begin to apprehend a hologram
Who's determined to fight solely, to defend in wars a land of the holy
I threw I-raq/a-rock and I-ran/I-ran
cause I couldn't stand anymore within the depths of the sand
So don't ask me Hu-ssein/who-sane
cause the hypnotical gases are eating my brain

{oxygen levels, check it, hydorogen levels, check it
nitrogen levels.. check it}

Twenty-thousand leagues down below,
minus one-hundred and forty-three degrees
Seize the info, gather the archaelogists
The aftermath needs to follow this cause it's, deep
Equivalent to the esophagus, spreads to scientists
a.k.a. Optimus Prime -- time, television is, dead
on this issue and very much irrelevant to this intuition
de-leting any alias info and descriptive
Mortal calm, partition with infrared light, vision
precision, beams
Colors, reds, fuschias, lime-greens
Black, don't you know my formulas form dope lyrics
uplift spirits and yo I hear it's fatal
to walk the path of Konfusion, where it's
torture some cherish, while most human-like beings perish
Subjected to death
Their bodies don't agree with the hypnotical intellect
Poetical acid is burning up flesh
At the end of corridor do you see me sitting there
Johnny More Grotesque
Literature somewhat equivalent to concentrated sodium hyperchloride
Insight, foresight, more sight
The clock on the wall reads a quarter past midnight
You feel nauseous
Forever you will avoid my royal presence as I step into darkness

{Now is the time.. to stretch your brain to it's maximum}

I am one who is one with all things, thus the unorthodox I am
The paradox I am, the equinox extending my hand
into dimensions to unlock new doorways
And so the light has revealed to me that there must be more ways
And so I play with rhythms, for something more than a mere game
enabling me to advance in wisdom
Words will exist like vampires
No need for sunlight, from concentrations camps I escape
with my sanity -- in 2010 every man will be
subject to global warming, formless oval
Millions of locusts swarming
Seek and you shall find the deliverer of a rhyme
the intelligent one, utilizing the mind third vision
Surrounded by a three-sided figure, containing the brain
The triggering mechanism from which I strike
sight beyond sight, sound beyond sound
which comes from below the magma, the granite, the ground
The surface will seperate, dispersing harmful ashes
Your optics will not be able to detect
the deadly hypnotical gases
Damn it's hard to breathe!!! But if I got one breath left;
I'll suck wind from the valley of death, here I come
from the slums of earth to center
I reveal myself as a beast within a, unbreakable shell
Walkin through the doorways of Heaven -- or is this Hell?

{The time is now.. right now.}
{This is the hour, this is the new dawn!
This is the new day.}

As I step into the Thunderdome, with flows as the wind blows
Visualize the intros, releasing hypnotical gases
chemicals mixed, fixed, takin it to the sixth
round of poetical warfare; energetically I walk with the flare
Rampaging like a rock-like figure
throughout the night's atmosphere I swear
My wrist holds mind-trigger darkness can't overshadow me
cause of high rate of smashin you, then trashin you
after I'm bashin you, with my hammer
Whenceforth passed to me, by Odin
Occasionally my pro-file is low-key Gamma
Rays brainwashed to transforms me
but I still withhold my hammer, to lift me up
For God still is my upliftor
I use this knowledge just to crush the cluster of grifter
Night approaches so I proceed in flight
back to the Hall of Justice as I continue to disintegrate em
Translating the codes in hypnotical language
then a Theta assault steppin up, frontin to be blunt
but I'm a radical creator of a poetical hypothetical
mathematical slay slur, punch that, stun that amazes and dazes
and phases the stranger, with pages of the lost chapters
Unfound factors
So I stretch like Reed Richards across the land
Continue with reading your e-quilibrium
with concepts that confuse ya, metabolism's fallin off
Data consider oblivion
Now as I walk through the valley of death
ignoring the battle lashes and gashes and rashes
the atom smashes, cause I released the last hypnotical gases
post #473 of 782
Most people don't listen/read the lyrics, so they listen to the beat, which explains pop music's popularity.
post #474 of 782
Actually, you'll find you can predict a hit from lyrics alone (particularly if it contains a word of vulgarity- such as shakiras song [w/e its called] becuase she says "lucky my breasts are small and humble so you dont confuse them with mountains"). Theres very little difference between a lot of pop songs, not that most people would look at it that way. If people didnt lesten to the lyrics you'd hear instrumental music on the radio all the time, heck, even foreign music. Even beyond that, sometimes songs just become popular because of who its a single from - radio stations snap it up and play it until you like it. (an example would be Pinks "so what". It's very popular over here, but its a ****ing horrible song. it plays like a wannabe grunge track with a pop chorus thrown in the middle).
post #475 of 782
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Originally Posted by m0ofassa View Post
Actually, you'll find you can predict a hit from lyrics alone (particularly if it contains a word of vulgarity- such as shakiras song [w/e its called] becuase she says "lucky my breasts are small and humble so you dont confuse them with mountains"). Theres very little difference between a lot of pop songs, not that most people would look at it that way. If people didnt lesten to the lyrics you'd hear instrumental music on the radio all the time, heck, even foreign music. Even beyond that, sometimes songs just become popular because of who its a single from - radio stations snap it up and play it until you like it. (an example would be Pinks "so what". It's very popular over here, but its a ****ing horrible song. it plays like a wannabe grunge track with a pop chorus thrown in the middle).
Whenever, Wherever. That song ****ing owns It's survived about 7 years of playtime with me.
post #476 of 782
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Originally Posted by Sabrage View Post
You aren't making any recommendations, so that's a bit hard.

The simpleness and banality of the rap hater's arguments is making me sick. The people that rage against the popular rappers are the same ones that go listen to Radiohead and Coldplay two seconds later... The hypocrisy is frightening.
Oh,okay. Here,try these and see if you like them.

Les Sage Poetes De La Rue - Jusqu'a L'Amour
O.S.T.R - Jazzurekcja
Krec - Vtorshenie
post #477 of 782
That stuff is good, but I don't see why it is better than stuff that's going on in the US. It seems like you just have a soft spot for jazzy rap
post #478 of 782
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Originally Posted by Calexico View Post
That stuff is good, but I don't see why it is better than stuff that's going on in the US. It seems like you just have a soft spot for jazzy rap
I just like it because jazz and hip hop work really well together. I just don't the whole buzzing synthesizer and "crunk beats" ethic going on in the US. I also really don't care for the whole excessive swearing talking about "bitches and rims". I prefer hip hop that is more introspective or just fun to listen in the sense they talk about what they did that day(hung out with friends,impromptu rap battle,etc)instead of battling some guy with an AK.

Just my opinion,though....

....and whats wrong with jazz influenced rap? :P
post #479 of 782
I agree, "new" rap is all too synthetic and way too many pointless lyrics (e.g. cursing). Another problem is everything is too overproduced. Nowadays there's always at least two tracks where a rapper sings and you know they auto-tuned/produced the hell out of that to make it sound half way decent. I've given up on the genre, especially when someone like Lil' Wayne can top the charts...

I used to be a huge rap/hip hop guy (still love my Biggy and Jay-Z), but as I became an audiophile I enjoy more naturalistic music with actual instruments.
post #480 of 782
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Originally Posted by 928GTS View Post
I just like it because jazz and hip hop work really well together. I just don't the whole buzzing synthesizer and "crunk beats" ethic going on in the US. I also really don't care for the whole excessive swearing talking about "bitches and rims". I prefer hip hop that is more introspective or just fun to listen in the sense they talk about what they did that day(hung out with friends,impromptu rap battle,etc)instead of battling some guy with an AK.

Just my opinion,though....

....and whats wrong with jazz influenced rap? :P
But there's much more than that going on in U.S. rap music, including plenty of jazz influenced rap. Those examples you posted, they don't seem to be doing anything unique.
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