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post #106 of 359
3/5/09 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
There IS a difference in SQ between the STX and the Claro Halo. Have you even tried them both?
A difference in SQ means that one is "better", they may sound different, but not better.

And since we are not allowed to discuss DBT here, there is no more room for further discussion.

I stand by my stance that they will not differ in sound quality. Almost all electronic hardware, once they get to a certain level, have the same sound quality.
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post #107 of 359
3/5/09 at 9:38pm
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
A difference in SQ means that one is "better", they may sound different, but not better.

And since we are not allowed to discuss DBT here, there is no more room for further discussion.

I stand by my stance that they will not differ in sound quality. Almost all electronic hardware, once they get to a certain level, have the same sound quality.
Lets go over a few points here that do not involve that bad word you almost said

I have two Radios,

there is a difference is SQ.

One is AM

One is FM

I like the FM because of X,Y, and Z.

That has nothing to do with DBT. It is my assessment.

Now you can have two Radios, both FM, A and B. and I can say they sound different, there is a difference in SQ.

I like B because of reasons X,Y, and Z. That is not DBT. It is my assessment that i backed up with my observations.

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post #108 of 359
3/5/09 at 9:42pm
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post
Lets go over a few points here that do not involve that bad word you almost said

I have two Radios,

there is a difference is SQ.

One is AM

One is FM

I like the FM because of X,Y, and Z.

That has nothing to do with DBT. It is my assessment.

Now you can have two Radios, both FM, A and B. and I can say they sound different, there is a difference in SQ.

I like B because of reasons X,Y, and Z. That is not DBT. It is my assessment that i backed up with my observations.

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It is completely pointless, you are taking advantage of the fact that we can not discuss DBT here, thus I can't say anything in reply.
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post #109 of 359
3/5/09 at 9:58pm
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
It is completely pointless, you are taking advantage of the fact that we can not discuss DBT here, thus I can't say anything in reply.
Goit. First test the 2 cards side by side, then we'll talk...
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post #110 of 359
3/5/09 at 10:05pm
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
Goit. First test the 2 cards side by side, then we'll talk...
I don't need to, I believe in objective maagazines such as the Audio Critic, and if you say that you "hear" a difference, I disagree. Again, you are taking advantage of me not able to talk about DBT here, I'm tired of repeating myself.
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post #111 of 359
3/5/09 at 10:11pm
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
I don't need to, I believe in objective maagazines such as the Audio Critic, and if you say that you "hear" a difference, I disagree. Again, you are taking advantage of me not able to talk about DBT here, I'm tired of repeating myself.

I think you have no idea what DBT is. No offense, but you have never mentioned anything that approaches it.

I listen to 2 cards or ten cards and tell you which one I like, that is nowhere near DBT. Look up DBT and come back...

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post #112 of 359
3/5/09 at 10:20pm
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
Almost all electronic hardware, once they get to a certain level, have the same sound quality.
But the question is, has the Halo reached that certain level?
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post #113 of 359
3/5/09 at 10:23pm
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post
I listen to 2 cards or ten cards and tell you which one I like
And I said that I don't accept your way of testing unless it's done in strict conditions.

All I said originally is that they should have the same sound quality, they may sound "different" if one has amps that deliberately tries to color the sound, but there is no reason believe that one is any "better". Then I get told that someone has both cards and listened to both of them, thus I replied that it has to be done under DB conditions. But we aren't allowed to talk about this kind of testing here.
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post #114 of 359
3/5/09 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post

I stand by my stance that they will not differ in sound quality. Almost all electronic hardware, once they get to a certain level, have the same sound quality.
Maybe one day you will get to hear some Nice gear, because this statement is so far from Correct that it is sad.

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post #115 of 359
3/5/09 at 10:32pm
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
And I said that I don't accept your way of testing unless it's done in strict conditions.

All I said originally is that they should have the same sound quality, they may sound "different" if one has amps that deliberately tries to color the sound, but there is no reason believe that one is any "better". Then I get told that someone has both cards and listened to both of them, thus I replied that it has to be done under DB conditions. But we aren't allowed to talk about this kind of testing here.
Here's what you said,

"""There is no difference in sound quality between this card and the Asus.""""

The next OBVIOUS question to ask was if you had heard both cards? You were asked that question.

I didn't see you answer it.

So let's ask it again for Clarification.

Have you HEARD both cards?

Then somehow DBT came into this and you couldn't answer questions.

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post #116 of 359
3/5/09 at 11:41pm
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Originally Posted by Goit View Post
A difference in SQ means that one is "better", they may sound different, but not better.

And since we are not allowed to discuss DBT here, there is no more room for further discussion.

I stand by my stance that they will not differ in sound quality. Almost all electronic hardware, once they get to a certain level, have the same sound quality.




I'm kind of feeling sorry for you right now because it must be hell to try to navigate through these forums & threads & feel like you can discuss much....or worse yet, that anyone else has a right to discuss much.

With logic & an argument like that you are sure to be a buzzkill to a vast majority of the existing threads.
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post #117 of 359
3/5/09 at 11:46pm
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Originally Posted by dantztiludrop View Post




I'm kind of feeling sorry for you right now because it must be hell to try to navigate through these forums & threads & feel like you can discuss much....or worse yet, that anyone else has a right to discuss much.

With logic & an argument like that you are sure to be a buzzkill to a vast majority of the existing threads.
Stomped da hell outta my Buzz!!


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post #118 of 359
3/6/09 at 3:19am
What's DBT anyway and since when are we not allowed to mention it in this forum?
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post #119 of 359
3/6/09 at 3:29am
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Originally Posted by scytheavatar View Post
What's DBT anyway and since when are we not allowed to mention it in this forum?


You have Blind testing

Double Blind Testing (DBT)

Triple Blind Testing

What is a Double Blind Test?

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post #120 of 359
3/6/09 at 3:32am
And since when are we not supposed to discuss about blind tests in this forum?
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