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post #16 of 351
well, the biggest WOW factor from LD recently is the launch of LD 6, which actually gave a lot of people (like me) a chance to go into the much hyped balanced word.
The scenario is: many may have a decent source with balanced XLR output, but just cannot afford to go to balanced amps like the GS-X, RSA APACHE. Then the LD 6 came out just $650, which immediately caught my eye. So I rushed to get the first batch.
The sound is amazing, a LOT better than one of my other SE tube amp from Canada (which cost more than the LD), take it like this, LD 6 has 6 tubes, where the other has only 2. LOL

As a result, I think the PRICE/PERFORMANCE ration is just tooooo good for the LDs.

Can't be happier.

James
post #17 of 351
price and performance are outstanding. I can't think of any better amps in that price range...maybe DV offerings, certainly nothing western made.
Customer service is excellent. When I had a bad power tube in the initial 24 hours of use, David sent me a replacement right away (3 day from HK). He's always answered all my questions, often within minutes of them being sent.

I also want to add these amps are a joy to work on (the MK series) as far as modifications go, sure the chassis is tight, but the amps really do have more potential under the hood waiting to be tapped. I have tapped mine...but that's for another thread...

Grawk...is the shilling comment really necessary ? It's counterproductive and dead wrong...2 cents FWIW.



Peete.
post #18 of 351
I'm on my third LD amp and each one has been (and still is) an absolute pleasure to behold. Supreme value and excellent sound backed up by one of the nicest gentlemen (David) you could ever deal with. I don't need the expensive name, high price or snob appeal of other amps. The LDs do just fine by me.
post #19 of 351
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Originally Posted by grawk View Post
shilling
Penchum, 3,198+ posts shilling for Little Dot. Doubt what I say, go and look at his posting history and his head-amp inventory. I just want to add that I have no beef with Little Dot and im sure they make a good amp.
post #20 of 351
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Originally Posted by jpstereo View Post
I'm on my third LD amp and each one has been (and still is) an absolute pleasure to behold. Supreme value and excellent sound backed up by one of the nicest gentlemen (David) you could ever deal with. I don't need the expensive name, high price or snob appeal of other amps. The LDs do just fine by me.
I agree. It's a great amp. Sweet tone. I think the tone is the strongest part of the LD amps. Very musical.
post #21 of 351
Gonna do some drive-by commenting on two very differing (but not related) comments here.

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Originally Posted by olblueyez View Post
Penchum, 3,198+ posts shilling for Little Dot. Doubt what I say, go and look at his posting history and his head-amp inventory. I just want to add that I have no beef with Little Dot and im sure they make a good amp.
Shilling or not, one cannot deny that it has helped stir interest and introduced people to the option of buying a Little Dot product. He pretty much has the only comprehensive review of every LD amp, which is priceless to any newbie or on-the-fence costumer (even though all of his reviews in the end call them a great bargain with amazing sound ).

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Originally Posted by Spareribs View Post
I agree. It's a great amp. Sweet tone. I think the tone is the strongest part of the LD amps. Very musical.
Indeed indeed! To me, LD amps have just the right amount of sweetness and musicality, which I have yet to agree with any other amp on.
post #22 of 351
The point of shilling is obviously to drive business. When it's allowed to go on, it works. That some of the cheap chinese amps aren't horrid keeps them selling, and then buzz develops. Mostly they sell to people without a great deal of experience with home amps, so they easily become the best thing they've heard, perpetuating the buzz. It still boils down to the buzz is being driven by people who stand to gain pushing the product pretending to be hobbiests. Heck, it's a standard practice taught in chinese business schools.
post #23 of 351
I won't accuse penchum of shilling, but I do agree that he has singlehandedly stirred up quite an enormous percentage of first-time tube buyers, and it does help that the LD produces some of the only tube amplifiers in the $100-200 range.
He has so enthusiastically encouraged the purchase of LD products in the past, but I wonder what his basis of comparison is though.
Comments representing things like - tremendous improvement in sound, by replacing electrolyte powersupply caps w/ expensive PIO caps - make me doubt his veracity.

I have no doubt about the quality of the products though.
post #24 of 351
Thats simple, he has compared all his Little-Dot amps to all of his Little-Dot amps and we get to benefit from his great knowledge of all the different brands and models availible and how Little-Dot amps are better.
post #25 of 351
You guys, personal attacks are uncalled for and not appropriate on Head-Fi. We all know that. If you think shilling is happening you should contact a mod and resolve the issue that way. It isn't right or fair to make accusations like these in the public forums where the conversation should be about the gear and the music. So let's keep this thread on topic and compare gears and the music they make.

post #26 of 351
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Originally Posted by JamesL View Post
LD produces some of the only tube amplifiers in the $100-200 range.

This was the #1 selling point for me. #2 point was the large number of positive testimonials on this board (not just Penchum's). I'm of the belief that a watt is a watt and much of amplifier sound quality is pure price driven placebo. What's more important to me is that people enjoy their purchase and stand by the reliability. Given that many people here attest to Little Dot's build quality, incredible service record, and most importantly it's excellent price point, purchasing a Little Dot was a no brainer for me.
post #27 of 351
If a watt was a watt, everyone would have chip amps. Chip watts are a lot cheaper than discrete watts and a whole lot cheaper than tube watts.
post #28 of 351
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Originally Posted by grawk View Post
If a watt was a watt, everyone would have chip amps. Chip watts are a lot cheaper than discrete watts and a whole lot cheaper than tube watts.
Even with my very limited experience in the head-fi realm I've already noticed a difference between SS and tube sound, but imo it's a subtle difference, and much smaller then the difference between comparing different headphones. How much did you spend on your amp? For you maybe that additional cost is worth the minute difference, but for me it's certainly not. I understand that audiophile is a hobby and passion and for this reason I know price isnt an obstacle for these people. I just enjoy listening to damn good sounding music, and that's exactly what I get with my relatively bargain rig.
post #29 of 351
What did it for me was the following (LD MKIII):
  • there were several good reviews of the amp.*
  • the price point was enough below its nearest competitor to make it worthwhile at the time (ld mkIII vs. dv 336i)
  • an endless stream of praise for the customer service of David (yes, the customer service he provides truly is top-shelf).
  • the tube-rolling options are plentiful and the tubes are decently priced and readily available.
  • lots of general praise for the exact model in question (non-reviews) that verified that the sound quality was not sub-par compared to even significantly higher priced units from competitors.

* Regarding Penchums reviews, I don't think there's much weight behind his shining praises because (A) every review I've seen by him has been glowing and positive, and (B) he doesn't seem to compare against the direct competitors in a price range. However, his reviews are fantastic resources in that they act as a foundation for a *lot* of users to discuss the product and share experiences (tube-rolling, quirks, production problems, faq's, etc), and in that sense they're extremely valuable to head-fi.
post #30 of 351
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Originally Posted by fuzydice View Post
However, his reviews are fantastic resources in that they act as a foundation for a *lot* of users to discuss the product and share experiences (tube-rolling, quirks, production problems, faq's, etc), and in that sense they're extremely valuable to head-fi.
I agree entirely. Every review thread I've seen from him has over 100 posts of people confirming and critiquing the review. After reading Penchum's reviews I found that while they are certainly exciting and provocative, they hold little weight as an objective analysis. His reviews are obviously bias towards LD (which is OK), but they stir up the forum a lot, and provide an excellent catalyst for discussion.
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