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post #31 of 195
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Originally Posted by bidoux View Post
FOr the COwon X5 rockobox goes to 141gb I think. Maybe same thing with Ipod ?
Hey, I looked through the rockbox manual for the X5 port and I could find no such (artifical?) limit on storage capacity. Could you try to confirm this? If this is true I will be getting the single platter 120gb drive and enjoy the added battery capacity :P

Edit: I did actually find this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BigDisk Archos can get storage of up to 160gb, and to access more than 137gb with Rockbox you have to follow the procedure outlined here.

Edit2: Bah, now I've wasted the entire day googling around about this. Seems I finally did find an answer, let me know if I'm off.

From the rockbox bigdisk page I linked to earlier:

"Two obstacles prevent easy use of the full capacity in an Archos:

* Rockbox doesn't use LBA48 (neither does the stock Archos firmware or BootBox), but this is a pure software issue.
* The USB to ATA bridge chip only does LBA28, we can't change that, no way to reach the upper part over USB. "

Clearly, we can use the procedure outlined above, but that would produce two drives out of one, where the USB can only address one and this is inconvenient to say the least.
However, the logical step is to check if the USB chip for the X5 also indeed only supports LBA28, before we start partitioning the HDD. Luckily, rockbox lists the hardware used in the X5, and we find the relevant chip to be: Cypress CY7C68310-80AC - USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge. Rockbox also conveniently links to the datasheet for this chip, where it says:

• ATA/ATAPI-6 specification-compliant–provides support for mass storage devices larger than 137GB

I'm hoping this indicates I won't run into any problems using a 240gb drive, if I'm mistaken please let me know
post #32 of 195
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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post
Does anyone know what cable/connector it uses? ZIF? I could not find any pics of this interface for the 240GB drive...

Vinnie
MK2431GAH - Features

* 1.8-inch 240 GB Capacity
* Short Form Factor: 54mm x 8mm x 71mm (WxHxD)
* LIF (Low Insertion Force) connector
* Efficient power consumption of 0.0013W/GB
* Operating shock: 500G
* Non-Operating shock: 1,500G

There you go.
post #33 of 195
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Originally Posted by garthfluff View Post
MK2431GAH - Features

* 1.8-inch 240 GB Capacity
* Short Form Factor: 54mm x 8mm x 71mm (WxHxD)
* LIF (Low Insertion Force) connector
* Efficient power consumption of 0.0013W/GB
* Operating shock: 500G
* Non-Operating shock: 1,500G

There you go.
Thanks for the info!

Not sure if the "LIF" connector is the same as the "ZIF" used in the 5.5G... if anyone can find a more detailed pic of this drive (showing the connector), this would help...

If anyone gets the drive and wants me to try installing it in the 5.5G, I'll gladly do it free of charge. Can't promise it will work, but I'll give it a shot..

Vinnie
post #34 of 195
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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post
Thanks for the info!

Not sure if the "LIF" connector is the same as the "ZIF" used in the 5.5G... if anyone can find a more detailed pic of this drive (showing the connector), this would help...

If anyone gets the drive and wants me to try installing it in the 5.5G, I'll gladly do it free of charge. Can't promise it will work, but I'll give it a shot..

Vinnie
I've been trying to find out about the LIF connectors, and everything i see about them says ZIF/LIF. So i don't know if they are interchangeable, but it looks that way.
post #35 of 195
After doing some raking around I've managed to find these.
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post #36 of 195
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Originally Posted by garthfluff View Post
After doing some raking around I've managed to find these.
If that is the 240GB drive, that *should* be the right connector!

Where does one buy this drive?
post #37 of 195
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Originally Posted by Vinnie R. View Post
If that is the 240GB drive, that *should* be the right connector!

Where does one buy this drive?
www.span.com - IMte240 - MK2431GAH - MiniDrive, MicroDrive 1.8", MP3 Drive, Ipod, Iriver, Video Ipod, Vaio, Gal, Gah - Toshiba 1.8" ATA7 MK2431GAH ZIF-40 71x54x8mm 4200rpm (240gb)

Should be going in stock at the end of September.
post #38 of 195
If this fits the Ipod, I assume it will fit the Zune too?
post #39 of 195
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Originally Posted by garthfluff View Post
If this fits the Ipod, I assume it will fit the Zune too?
Just the Zune 30 if you remove some padding inside of it.
post #40 of 195
Is there any updates with this drive? my iMod's hdd just stuffed up so I need a new hdd. What's the largest hdd thats proven to work in the iPod available?
post #41 of 195
It went into mass production at the end of September. Should start appearing sometime this month.
post #42 of 195
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Originally Posted by Zanth View Post
nice!
240 GB will be enough to hold my Jazz collection I'll need a half dozen more to get my full "on the go" collection in my backpack. Still, 240 + Rockbox = bliss!

Now then...can this thing fit in a Cowan Q5? If so, native flac support!
240 GB - just enough for Miles, I'll then name it a MilesPod :-)
post #43 of 195
Different harddisk, not gona work
post #44 of 195
Whats not going to work about it?
post #45 of 195
I have no experience with iPods and I'm wondering if a iPod 5G/5.5G 80GB uses an 8" double platter ZIF drive?
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