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post #16 of 22
9/7/08 at 8:36pm
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Do not try mixing with Sennheisers, unless maybe you're planning on bringing a very high quality balanced amp with you as well. They're not sufficiently resolving, and have a coloration that makes EQ work impossible to do.

I'm mixing primarily with the markl modded D5000s now. They have superb detail retrieval, with outstanding instrument separation. They easily go above the highest frequency I can hear. And I can still feel them shaking my head at 15 Hz. So they should have way better bass extension than the A7s. Just don't get the stock D5000s and expect them to behave well. They'd be a nightmare to mix on without the mods.
Another option!! great! LOL
I read about the Denons. They're highly regarded as well. I didn't include them in my list primarily because I had to narrow it down but from what I've read they seem like a very precise headphone. Where does one get more info on the Markl mod?
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post #17 of 22
9/7/08 at 8:46pm
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As for powering the MD5000s, there's a lot of discussion on the subject. The only thing I can add is that for reasons I don't understand, the little Pico does a surprisingly marvelous job with them. I don't lke the Pico's sound with any other full sized headphone I've tried it with. But the MD5000 & Pico combo is great for the road (or a hotel.) Its small size makes it really easy to travel with.
Would you recommend the Pico in replacement to the headphone output on an Apogee Ensemble or Duet ? (If you've ever tried them?) Would this really make a considerable difference?
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post #18 of 22
9/7/08 at 8:55pm
For info on the markl mods:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/how...0-mods-299627/
and
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f38/in...dition-342437/

I'm not sure about Ensemble or Duet. But a friend of mine uses an Apoge interface that I think is called the mini DAC. It sounds terrific, probably equal to the Pico. So I'd imagine that you'd get a similarly good sound out of the Ensemble or Duet.
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post #19 of 22
9/7/08 at 9:00pm
I have the modded Denon D2000. While they are a great pair of headphones for listening purposes, I don't think you can mix well with them. The sound that they present is imbalanced, in the sense that some things seem to be more forward than others, they are more the type to get you in the music rather than give you an objective perspective, which I think is the ideal scenario when mixing. I vote for the AKG 701, while I haven't heard them stock (I bought mine recabled) I can tell you that they will present most everything in the music, including low bass in its own space with every detail. They are also a pleasure to listen to with the right amp, the sound I get is very much textured and has body/weight which some report to be lacking with these phones. I have the 501's as well, they lack that body, and also I would say that the 501's compared to the 701's have a sound that is "raw", unrefined. Also the 501's cant go very low at all.

Good luck!
-Arteom
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post #20 of 22
9/7/08 at 9:02pm
This is a bad place to ask this question. we all think we know everything about headphones but you'll notice that almost none of us use them in a professional recording or mixing environment.
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post #21 of 22
9/7/08 at 9:51pm
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For info on the markl mods:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/how...0-mods-299627/
and
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f38/in...dition-342437/

I'm not sure about Ensemble or Duet. But a friend of mine uses an Apoge interface that I think is called the mini DAC. It sounds terrific, probably equal to the Pico. So I'd imagine that you'd get a similarly good sound out of the Ensemble or Duet.
Thanks! I'll experiment with the Apogee interfaces and if needed invest in a dedicated Headphone amp.

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I have the modded Denon D2000. While they are a great pair of headphones for listening purposes, I don't think you can mix well with them. The sound that they present is imbalanced, in the sense that some things seem to be more forward than others, they are more the type to get you in the music rather than give you an objective perspective, which I think is the ideal scenario when mixing. I vote for the AKG 701, while I haven't heard them stock (I bought mine recabled) I can tell you that they will present most everything in the music, including low bass in its own space with every detail. They are also a pleasure to listen to with the right amp, the sound I get is very much textured and has body/weight which some report to be lacking with these phones. I have the 501's as well, they lack that body, and also I would say that the 501's compared to the 701's have a sound that is "raw", unrefined. Also the 501's cant go very low at all.

Good luck!
-Arteom
That really confirms what I believed on the 501s. I'll try to get my hands on 701s, from the sound of things they may very well give me what I'm looking for.

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This is a bad place to ask this question. we all think we know everything about headphones but you'll notice that almost none of us use them in a professional recording or mixing environment.
Valid point. The world of audiophiles is very different than pro recording/mixing. I've used Yamaha NS10M monitors at work for years and they would be considered flat, dry, lifeless, and other negative qualities to audiophiles but those are the characteristics we look for when mixing! It's the whole "if you can make it sound good on those, it'll sound good on anything!" scenario.

Having said that; your passion for headphone monitoring and understanding of what constitutes accurate sound reproduction/separation/spatial positioning and frequency response is still valuable in my purchase decision since it's fairly uncommon for mix engineers to use headphones or even discuss different headphone options....we prefer talking about compressors, e.q's, mic pres, mics, DAWs and other pro recording gear.

Little by little I'm starting to form an opinion based on what I've read in this and other threads and believe I'll be in a better place to make a somewhat informed decision when it comes down to it.

Ultimately, my expectations are with a good degree of flexibility. I don't expect to mix the next commercial record I work on! But merely get a good and somewhat accurate representation of what I'm working on while traveling.
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post #22 of 22
9/7/08 at 10:07pm

Recommendations for Producer/Engineer

Sennheiser HD 250 II = ADAM Audio S3A

Ultrasone PROline 650 = Genelec 8030

PIONEER Monitor 10 = Yamaha NS-10
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