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post #331 of 460
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Originally Posted by Marcus_C View Post
If it's from hkokoro, that's where I got my 600 from and it's perfect!
This makes me happy!

xx
post #332 of 460
Well, glad to see a fellow Mars Micro user. I just realized yesterday from Staedtler website that you can actually retract the tip! Now it's perfect for pocket's use.
post #333 of 460
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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post
Well, glad to see a fellow Mars Micro user. I just realized yesterday from Staedtler website that you can actually retract the tip! Now it's perfect for pocket's use.
Dang it if I can figure that out. New feature perhaps? I have a couple of each lead thickness, the only mechanical pencils I regularly use beside Rotring 800.
post #334 of 460
Yeah, if you push the top in further than you would normally to push the lead out, and push back on the tip at the same time (probably off a table), then as you let go the tip disappears. Took me a while to work that out too.
post #335 of 460
Oi bingo!

The 800 suddenly seems terribly expensive.
post #336 of 460
Woot, just my luck found a rusted up Parker Jotter...some elbow grease, and wd40, and it looks new...now i just gotta find an eraser and cap
post #337 of 460

Dammit! I just read through all 23 pages, and have about 20 tabs full of pencils open!

I'm going to pick up a Rotring 600 for sure (maybe 800, because I like the retractable tip). I know that you guys like the 600, but I read some complaints about the tip getting bent and stuff. If the 800 avoids that problem,


is it worth the extra price? Seems like a reliable implement (and amazing aesthetics) with a big fanbase.


Also, I love the look of the Graph 1000, so I might pick one of those up.

Question for you 2mm fans: My Staedler 780 is starting to fail. The friction between the advancing tip and the lead holder tube is weak, and it's literally exploding in class. What's a good replacement/step up?

This is the only quote I've found on 2mms:

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Originally Posted by csommers View Post
W/o a doubt
Cult Pens Caran d'Ache Fixpencil 22

Awesome lead holder, build quality is superb, and it handles great


Currently, I'm looking at:

Caran D'Ache Fixpencil 77
Rotring 800 - 2mm
Staedler 925 25

I looked into the Rotring 600 2mm, but I just don't like the way it works.

 

Baby update: I ordered the Fixpencil 77 and the Rotring 600. Fixpencil has come in, and it's absolutely beautiful, and amazingly built. Thanks for the rec, csommers.


Edited by iPoodz - 5/6/10 at 3:59am
post #338 of 460

Graphgear 500 user here. Totally worth the $8 or so I paid for it.

post #339 of 460

Ticonderoga or bust.

post #340 of 460

I now have both the Rotring 600 (black, new style) and the Caran D'Ache Fixpencil 77.

 

Took my music final with the Rotring, and my DiffEq final with the Caran D'Ache. Couldn't be happier with both of them.

 

I only wish that I had ordered the blue cap for the Caran D'Ache, since now both of my pencils are black+red. I found a seller who's selling the caps only, which is sweet!

post #341 of 460

I'm planning to buy a 0.5mm mechanical pencil...but

I'm a bit confused about the Rotring 600 (old style) and 800...Could anybody tell me the main differences?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=170483381871&Category=28108&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D2

I think I'd go with this (or the black one from here), but I dont know if its genuine or not.... 


Edited by attika89 - 5/12/10 at 10:30am
post #342 of 460

Hey!

 

I was in a similar position as you, and decided on the 600, because 60$ is too much for me.

The differences, as far as I can gather are these:

[Note: I'm talking about the new style 600 and 800]

 

The 800 has a fully retractable tip, which is activated by turning the grip. See this linked picture.

The 600 does not. Some people view this as a deal breaker, because the lead guide (part of the tip) can get bent, and there's no guarantee that you can reset it back perfectly.

 

[Note: Although they say that the Rotring 600 is top heavy and tends to fall on its nose, I haven't found this to be the case, unless you drop it nose down.]

[Double note: I read somewhere that people were getting some play with the 800, as in the retractable bit was shifting while they were writing. It makes sense that this could happen, but it's a non-issue with the 600.]

 

The 800 has the paint on the outer barrel which says "Rotring 800" followed by the lead size.

The new-style 600 does not. I wish it did, but it's beautiful even without it.

 

The 800 might not have that lead-hardness indicator. I haven't seen any pictures of it with one.

The 600 does.

 

The 800 series has a really nice looking 2mm holder.

The 600 series does too, but I don't like it.

 

Finally, the 800 has a gold trim around the rim of the grip and below the clicker.

The 600 doesn't, and I'm kinda glad it doesn't.

 

The difference between new and old style 600 is the 600 has extra lettering on the outer barrel (mentioned above), and does not have a metal lead barrel inside the body. Some places say that there exists an old-style 600 which retracts, but I haven't seen a sale of it, ever. Here's a pic, though!

 

Hope this helps. I was scouring the internet for this same info when I was looking.

 

I think the old-style 600 is inflated, in price, at least on eBay. I could have easily spent the money to win one of the old-styles, but the benefits weren't all benefits, and I preferred to go with the new style. I think the new style box is a lot less cool than the old-style box, which was more than just a cardboard thing with "instructions".

 

Anyway, for the new style 600, look for the buy-it-now sellers with free shipping. 26$ shipped from japan is an amazing deal. I ordered from bundoki, and ended up paying 20 USD for the pencil, and about 12 USD for EMS shipping!

post #343 of 460

 ^  Wow! Thanks!

Thats really helpful...now I'm going back to ebay and research the "competitors"

 

EDIT:

If these seem  genuine then I think I'll jump on them

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rotring-Rotring-600-Mechanical-Pencil-2-0mm-Silver-New-/170482984050?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b193e472

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rotring-600-Mechanical-Pencil-0-5mm-Silver-Rotring-New-/170479355138?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Printer_Accessories&hash=item27b15c8502


Edited by attika89 - 5/13/10 at 5:39am
post #344 of 460

Those look fine. Of course, you can never be sure, but the seller seems to have good feedback, and there isn't anything 'off' about them.

 

For the silver 0.5 Rotring 600, this is a better deal, considering the 12$ shipping you have on the one you posted:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rotring-600-Brand-New-Mechanical-Pencil-0-5mm-Silver-/220604715292?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Crafts_DrawingSupplies_EH&hash=item335d10d11c

 

Only difference is, you don't get the snazzy gift box. 

 

Actually, on second thought, get the pricier one. I would have loved a nice box, but didn't get one, because I ordered from pencils.jp.

 

 

EDIT: I noticed that you like the 600 2mm holder. Have you seen the 800 2mm? Once I saw that (it's expensive as hell, though), I could not consider the 600 2mm, so maybe you shouldn't look it up :P

I didn't end up buying the 800 2mm, but if I'm ever in the market again (I doubt it, since the Fixpencil 77 is indestructible), I'm picking one of them up.


Edited by iPoodz - 5/13/10 at 3:45pm
post #345 of 460
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Originally Posted by iPoodz View Post


EDIT: I noticed that you like the 600 2mm holder. Have you seen the 800 2mm? Once I saw that (it's expensive as hell, though), I could not consider the 600 2mm, so maybe you shouldn't look it up :P

I didn't end up buying the 800 2mm, but if I'm ever in the market again (I doubt it, since the Fixpencil 77 is indestructible), I'm picking one of them up.


Yeah, I saw the 800 2mm and its ~$62 so the question is: Buy a 600 0,5 AND a 2mm, or buy a 800 2mm

That Fixpencil 77 looks great as well and it might be cheaper then the Rotring 600


Edited by attika89 - 5/14/10 at 10:45am
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