Ultrasone PRO900 - Page 21

Mmmm...Yes, I wonder who is the "someone else" that you mean too?

hehehe the ego factor around here really shines. Anyway, I wish these cans just purely SUCK HARD. I wouldnt want to add another can in my "to buy list".

Maybe it's the time for Ultrasone to start sale Mods and kits, so we can change drivers. I can put the titanium
driver in my PL650 and have PL900.


So, who much will be the cost of the 900 titanium driver, $70+shipping......LOL
Do they sale only the drivers???

I hope Ultrasone Germany crew will have a lot of fun reading this topic.

Very simply, without excuses, a headphone either sounds good or it does not. It either sounds real or it does not.

S-Logic is nothing more than positioning the driver in front of and below the listener's ear canal, causing a near field shadow from the listener's pinna. A near-field shadow is far different from a far/diffuse field shadow, but I appreciate the thought. There is nothing magic about S-Logic, and no excuses need to be made on its behalf.

If a headphone sounds good, it is good. That's just plain Good Logic. The only sound we need to be accustomed to is real life.

I found that the burn-in factor had far more to do with enjoying my Ultrasones than any "acclimation". The second factor was proper amplification (clean, SS works best, imo).

S-Logic is not something that is (nor should be, imo) so obvious. Ime, it really isn't.

That being said, there is a difference in overall presentation by the Ultrasones that, given one's previous experiences & current preferences, may take some open-mindedness to embrace. This is true of any new experience, yes? However, some people prefer the devil they know...

Ooooooo, I am awaiting the review/preview as my wallet becomes more and more irritating with anticipation!

QFT

Another reply to Kwkarth

I wasn't implying or referring to anyone special here. I just meant anyone who had this experience and who would care to do it.

I'm afraid I have to respectfully disagree Kwkarth, based on my own experience and on the experiences of others I know including Covenant. After listening to non-Ultrasone headphones for a lengthy period, for some it can be difficult, at first, to re-accustom their hearing to the Ultrasone sound. No, it's not magical. It's just different. After listening to other types of headphones for a lengthy period, when first hearing the Ultrasones, they can sound inferior but after listening for a while the Ultrasones start sounding beautiful again. There's no excuses intended in these statements of mine but, as I've stated here, this is the way that I and others have found this particular situation to be.

Maybe there's something wrong with my hearing Peter. I routinely switch back and forth between the Prolines and other cans many, many times per day and have no problem whatsoever with doing so.

Perhaps you might want to try modifying your Prolines to have a more neutral response so that accommodation is not necessary.

peter pinna,
well could it be that you have to re accustom yourself to the sound because it is highly colored? I agree with kwkarth

For those that might be interested, there is a good article on headphone measurement, recently published in Stereophile. I found it to be both accurate and informative.

Between The Ears - The Art and Science of Measuring Headphones


I think the author does a better job of explaining what I do, than I do.

3rd reply to kwkarth

Either I did not communicate what I meant very well or you misunderstood. The difference in the sound of the Pro (Proline) vs another non-Ultrasone headphone is still noticeable when switching back and forth but in that type of situation the Ultrasone headphone will probably not sound inferior to the other headphone (unless you think it does). What I mean is that the sound of the Ultrasone headphone won't seem to improve the longer you listen. What I was actually referring to is a situation where for an extended period of time, a person has listened to only non-Ultrasone headphones and then suddenly swithces to an Ultrasone headphone. An even better example is when someone has never heard an Ultrasone headphone and has listened a lot to non-Ultrasone headphones and then suddenly switches to Ultrasone Pro's. My understanding is that often times, in such a situation, that listener will think that the Ultrasones Pros sound strange and grade them as having an inferior sound compared to the headphones to which they normally listen. Then, after they listen for a while (what that duration is depends on the listener), they think the sound of the Pros is improving until the sounds is really pleasant to them.

An example of this is from a post by Covenant dated 7-18-2008 where he wrote the following:

"I havent had a chance to listen to the Pro 750's all this week, so the only music i've been getting have been via my PMX200's on the train.

So friday night, i sit down and put the Ultrasones on... and they sound bad, hollow, distant. WTF I think? Check that the cable is screwed on properly, check that Foobar is still using ASIO as output, adjust the headphone position.. no real change.

20mins later, my ears have 'remembered' the sound, and it sounds beautiful again. Its really very odd how these headphones can do this, the presentation is just so markedly different from regular headphones that it doesnt audially make "sense" when you're accustomed to regular non-angled drivers.

So I must reiterate - to get a taste of Ultrasone, you need to burn in. Your ears, that is, not just the headphones."


If you wish to see this post in the context of the thread in which it was written, here is the link (you will find this post as number 69):

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/ult...41/index7.html

that is true with other headphones as well. try something like a k701 after some bassy cans like ultrasones and those k701s will sound inadequate too. its the adjustment to different colorations that does that IMO but if you havent been listening to headphones for say... 1 week. try the ultrasones then if you find that they still need getting accustomed to then this might be due to the fact that they are just colored cans compared to the sound of real life. A realistic sounding can will automatically sound great.

Most of the cans are colored, this way or another... The biggest question is what color you what, like or need to listen.

The flat FR cans, are not so fun to listen too anyway they are more designed for monitoring as a tool.
If you want flat FR cans, you can try some old models like Beyerdynamic or AKG

well there you go, thats correct acix. Some people just find different colorations more pleasing or easier to tolerate than others. some colorations just bother too much. some are so slight that you could suspend disbelief and think what youre listening to is the real thing