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post #226 of 918
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Originally Posted by kwkarth View Post
I guess you didn't read a couple of posts up from yours, (apparently, you're not reading my posts at all) so there's no point in me rehashing everything again. Suffice it to say that you've severely misrepresented what I said.
Page was updating while I typed heh, was distracted by a few things.

I understand the self-convincing power of the brain utilized when making records such that the brain would not be able to tell the difference. I also got distracted and failed to point the point I was concerned over that PeterPinna has made:

We are still listening to records made for stereo setups...or often 5.1, but really: assuming that we are using equipment for reproducing a record played in the studio, we are striving for something that bizkid put down: tonality similar to that of a speaker rig tuned to be flat in a well-treated room. He made his point very nicely and cleanly - and how this thread derailed into being or not being able to reproduce an acoustic performance using holophonic record techniques (wtf, we are not concerned over those records 99% of the time) - is beyond me.

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post #227 of 918
MaloS,
I believe kwkarth is referring to post #219 in his most recent post.

Fzman,
For "crying out loud", please don't ask for flames!
post #228 of 918
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Originally Posted by fzman View Post
since this has become philosophical, i thought i'd pipe in as well. there are a number of issues being run together in this thread (exclusive of the 'how do the 900's sound-part). one of which breaks down as follows...

can i be put into the same cognitive state from a reproduction of a live musical event as i am (was) put into by that event itself. this is not unlike the old 'can i tell whether i am dreaming or not?'

so, the question becomes-- can hifi trigger a perceptual experience indistinguishable from live...

comments? flames ???
With all the right queues supplied, and the right frame of mind to begin with, I believe essentially, yes, after a fashion. Obviously, one wouldn't actually lose touch with reality, but one would experience many of the same emotions and physiological reactions experienced in the live event, and perhaps involuntarily respond to audible queues, etc. In other words, one would experience the illusion of reality.
post #229 of 918
So... How about them 900's 'eh?
post #230 of 918
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Originally Posted by kwkarth View Post
So... How about them 900's 'eh?
Yes, PLEASE, Jude or someone say something about the Pro 900's even if it's only that you like or dislike the smell of the leather or plastic or whatever!
post #231 of 918
Still Anxiously waiting for Jude's Impressions
post #232 of 918
Trying reverse psychology

I, for one, don't want to read any impressions from Jude. Really I don't.

Really.

I'm serious.

For real...

post #233 of 918
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Originally Posted by jpelg View Post
Trying reverse psychology

I, for one, don't want to read any impressions from Jude. Really I don't.

Really.

I'm serious.

For real...

Yeah, me neither, really...
post #234 of 918
yah, headphones suck! whats the point of this forum anyway
post #235 of 918
I guess I'll be the first in line then.
post #236 of 918
It looks like they used the same "secret ingredient" grill and magnet position in the 900 as they used in the 650 to create the S-Logic Plus with more dampening material in the second and fourth holes (which are a bit bigger).

Maybe we can get more photos of the inside the can to get a better look at the driver? I wonder if it's these larger holes that provided the expanded frequency on the high end. I want to see the inside to determine if the dampening material causes the frequency to go so low. Or maybe the Pro 900 got inspired by kwkarth's mod.
post #237 of 918
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Originally Posted by Acix View Post
Maybe we can get more photos of the inside the can to get a better look at the driver? I wonder if it's these larger holes that provided the expanded frequency on the high end. I want to see the inside to determine if the dampening material causes the frequency to go so low. Or maybe the Pro 900 got inspired by kwkarth's mod.
Yeah, but it raises a question as well. If those were done to extended the upper part of FR, is it even needed when most of the users are complaining about Pro 750's harshness? And when, wherever over the harshness point is where humans can't pickup sound at all? It leaves me curious.
post #238 of 918
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Originally Posted by Acix View Post
It looks like they used the same "secret ingredient" grill and magnet position in the 900 as they used in the 650 to create the S-Logic Plus with more dampening material in the second and fourth holes (which are a bit bigger).

Maybe we can get more photos of the inside the can to get a better look at the driver? I wonder if it's these larger holes that provided the expanded frequency on the high end. I want to see the inside to determine if the dampening material causes the frequency to go so low. Or maybe the Pro 900 got inspired by kwkarth's mod.
No, the larger holes, if that's what they are, would do nothing for the treble. If anything, they might muddy the bass a bit unless they're really well damped behind the driver. I can't tell from the pictures so far. They might actually "plug" the original holes found in the 750/650. My modded 650s are near perfect in the high end now with the mods.
post #239 of 918
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Originally Posted by analogbox View Post
Yeah, but it raises a question as well. If those were done to extended the upper part of FR, is it even needed when most of the users are complaining about Pro 750's harshness? And when, wherever over the harshness point is where humans can't pickup sound at all? It leaves me curious.
This is probably one way to get the crazy low and high end. I think I figured out the Ultrasone enigma. 3 cans, 3 drivers and the Edition 9. And guess what, the Pro 900 is the last combination of the Ultrasone enigma (the titanium driver with the PL 650, 3D sound...S-Logic Plus) and yet they're still one of the best headphones out there...if not the best. Otherwise, why would we all be here discussing them?

post #240 of 918
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Yeah, me neither, really...
x3 here -- no way!
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