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Question about OPA627 in the 'Max' modules

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Hi Headroom,

Bit of a technical question for you. I've noticed that you tend to use the OPA627 in all your 'Max' modules. I've listened extensively to the OPA637 before in my old M^3 amplifier (which from what I understand is just a higher-power version of the 627), and noticed it has some audio anomalies producing low bass frequencies.

Particularly, lowbass with the 637 tended to sound muddy and uncontrolled. This was using two OPA637's as L and R and an OPA627 as G.

My questions are:
1. Is this lowbass anomaly just an issue with the 637, and not the 627?
2. Could the issues I heard with the 637's be explained by some unsuitability in the M^3 circuit, as opposed to the Headroom implementation?
3. Have you heard/measured/noticed anything like this with the OPA627 in your modules?

Regards,
Jason
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Originally Posted by Covenant View Post
Hi Headroom,

Bit of a technical question for you. I've noticed that you tend to use the OPA627 in all your 'Max' modules. I've listened extensively to the OPA637 before in my old M^3 amplifier (which from what I understand is just a higher-power version of the 627), and noticed it has some audio anomalies producing low bass frequencies.

Particularly, lowbass with the 637 tended to sound muddy and uncontrolled. This was using two OPA637's as L and R and an OPA627 as G.

My questions are:
1. Is this lowbass anomaly just an issue with the 637, and not the 627?
2. Could the issues I heard with the 637's be explained by some unsuitability in the M^3 circuit, as opposed to the Headroom implementation?
3. Have you heard/measured/noticed anything like this with the OPA627 in your modules?

Regards,
Jason
Thanks for the question, Covenant.

Hmm,, not sure about this ... Lemme check with HeadRoom audio engineers and see what they have to say. I'll reply again shortly w/ any news.

Cheers,
Jorge
HR Sales/Product Manager
HeadRoom was founded in 1992 & manufactures headphone amps, DACs, and accessories; and sells headphones & related personal audio gear. We offer exceptional products, customer service, & information.
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.......OK -- Here's Joe W., HeadRoom Audio Engineer, reply to the questions:

1. The low-bass issue you describe, Covenant, could be due to the 637 being used very close to or at it's bare minimum gain. Unlike the unity-gain stable-operation of the 627opa, the 637opa requires a minimum gain of 5. This is due to the lower amount of compensation in the 637. If the amp design uses a gain close to this bare minimum, there may indeed be serious stability issues that are negatively affecting the audio performance. That's just a guess though... The low-bass problem may perhaps be more implicitly due to the actual topology design of the amplifier. Again, that's just a guess. There are many places where audio anomalies can creep in some DYI designs. Many times, poor bass performance is initially blamed on a poorly regulated power supply (as it's modulating with the audio) and not necessarily the amplification circuit. That would also likely be a good place to examine.

2. The M^3 is a completely different kind of amplifier compared to HeadRoom designs. It uses an active ground channel for return currents coming back from the headphones. Our HeadRoom amplifiers all use traditional 2-channel amplification with a passive ground plane. I make no claims as to which is better or worse but the 3-channel (active ground) amplifier can certainly be much harder get working properly. Furthermore, since the M^3 is not solely made by one "manufacturer", there's also the specific implementation of that user's personal amplifier to consider.

3. Nope. They measure +/- .5dB down to 10Hz or so. Most headphones don't get anywhere near that low.

Cheers,
HeadRoom Engineering Dept.
HeadRoom was founded in 1992 & manufactures headphone amps, DACs, and accessories; and sells headphones & related personal audio gear. We offer exceptional products, customer service, & information.
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Thread Starter 
Thank you Jorge/Joe, that's very informative

Good to know there's more to those chips than I've previously heard, as aside from the lowbass anomaly, the 637's did everything else exceptionally well.
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