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post #796 of 1733
Listening to my E5 now.. yuummm.. =) jus thru my PC tho.. i havent run it thru my Creative X-fi yet. maybe later...

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post #797 of 1733
Thread Starter 
If I subtracted the response of the sound card, the graph will be meaningless as there won't be a baseline to compare with.

Anyway,you can get the report here with 3Move 100, E5, E5 100, and E5 (bass mode) 100. I am not an expect on reading these graphs so maybe you will draw a different conclusion.

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post #798 of 1733
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Originally Posted by boomy3555 View Post
Most people who would buy just a 25.00 Fioo and nothing else are probably using a small inexpensive source such as a shuffle. ..... Not to mention, it is not likely, the same person would have any better cans or IEM's than say Koss porta-pro or Senn CX500's or Skull candy.
Is a classic or nano a better source than a shuffle?
Well just to be 'that guy' I have the AHD-5000's and the E5 will be my first headphone amp. Should be in the mailbox today. Would be interesting to hear the review from someone who has no previous brand bias, ey?
I will say that I'm planning on picking up a 2MOVE soon, so don't cry for my D5000's yet.
post #799 of 1733
Just had my e5 delivered from MP4nation - #0006! Just charging it up.

Anyone tried the amp with the Grado SR80's yet? If so, what are your impressions?
post #800 of 1733
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
If I subtracted the response of the sound card, the graph will be meaningless as there won't be a baseline to compare with.
The 'baseline' would be a perfect flat response, at least as a first approximation. Think of it as EQ:ing away the badness of your crappy sound card. As for THD, noise etc., the sound card's the limit. Also, thank you, I'll have a look at the attached file and see if I can draw any conclusions (and if so, present them here)!

Edit: I'm sorry, the results don't say much; your sound card is the bottleneck here ... ouch ... good thing you have the 3Move. :-)
post #801 of 1733
battery life, anyone?
post #802 of 1733
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mape00 View Post
The 'baseline' would be a perfect flat response, at least as a first approximation....
I am pretty sure that will be a wrong way of reading those graphs....
post #803 of 1733
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
I am pretty sure that will be a wrong way of reading those graphs....
Why are you 'pretty sure' you can't subtract the sound card response?

It's very common to do so, and it's even encouraged as there's a button for it in RMAA. It also makes perfect sense mathematically because dB's are logarithmic.

This BTW reminds me of the old joke:

The Flood is over and the ark has landed. Noah lets all the animals out
and says, "Go forth and multiply."

A few months later, Noah decides to take a stroll and see how the animals
are doing. Everywhere he looks he finds baby animals. Everyone is doing
fine except for one pair of little snakes.

"What's the problem?" says Noah.

"Cut down some trees and let us live there", say the snakes.

Noah follows their advice. Several more weeks pass. Noah checks on the
snakes again. Lots of little snakes, everybody is happy.

Noah asks, "Want to tell me how the trees helped?"

"Certainly", say the snakes. "We're adders, so we need logs to multiply."
post #804 of 1733
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Originally Posted by zaydon View Post
Is a classic or nano a better source than a shuffle?
Well just to be 'that guy' I have the AHD-5000's and the E5 will be my first headphone amp. Should be in the mailbox today. Would be interesting to hear the review from someone who has no previous brand bias, ey?
I will say that I'm planning on picking up a 2MOVE soon, so don't cry for my D5000's yet.
The Ipod Classic is a "Hard Drive" device where the Shuffle is a "Flashdrive" source. ( no moving parts ) I believe the nano is also flash. As i understand it the Flash is more stable for moving around and bouncing but I can't speak to SQ difference. The one difference I would assume would be that the Classic has so much space that you can load your songs in larger files such as .Wav, which should give you better SQ than AAC of MP3.

I have the Fiio E3 and soon the E5 and a pair of AHD5000's arriving soon, so after some burn-in I will have a better idea of the SQ as a bundle. I know right now, my high impedence cans (Beyer DT990 2005, 250ohm, and Senn HD650 300 ohm) are really hard to drive right off of my sound card and all of my amps other than my Sony home theater receiver are too small to properly drive them.
post #805 of 1733
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Originally Posted by shiftywxm View Post
Just had my e5 delivered from MP4nation - #0006! Just charging it up.

Anyone tried the amp with the Grado SR80's yet? If so, what are your impressions?
I just did a quick test - ZVM HPJ VS LOD>E5 with my SR80's. I may not be as articulate as some of the other reviewers, but my impression is that the E5 improves the SQ greatly. On the flat EQ mode the mid vocals sound much more clear and less "nasally" (sampling Radiohead, M83, Fugazi, Shiner). The highs are more detailed, but not over the top. The low end is nice and defined.
The Bass mode makes the SR80's sound very boomy (not in a good way) and muddy.
The E5 is not quite as "warm" as the uamp 107 (microshar), but it is much smaller and cheaper.
post #806 of 1733
My E5 arrived today from DealExtreme.
I'm charging the unit as I type.
I hope this is as good as the E3.
post #807 of 1733
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My E5 arrived today from DealExtreme.
I'm charging the unit as I type.
I hope this is as good as the E3.
It is..... and then some.

I own 4 of them (enough to last me a lifetime as well as bought for backups in case the battery on my current E5 can no longer hold a full charge), and I mainly use them with my MDR-NC60 Noise Canceling cans, which are 40 ohms (with NC on, 100 ohms with NC off).

Of course it is noted that I am at a slight disadvantage here, owning all Sony Walkman DAP's/Hi-MD/MD/CD players, in which put out only a measly 5 mW per channel, but eventually I will run more tests on the E5 with more of a line-output, and see how it is. Eventually I will try out different cans, buds and IEM's to get the best possible combination.

The only reason I do not use the line-out is because my inline remotes automatically switch to the default HP out and therefore I would have to use the unit's onboard controls instead of my more-prefered remote control with it.
post #808 of 1733
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Edit: I'm sorry, the results don't say much; your sound card is the bottleneck here ... ouch ... good thing you have the 3Move. :-)
If the 3move is anything like my Headsix/XXS, it's no "benchmark" either...
post #809 of 1733
Got mine today and love it! Not as neutral as the E3 to me, but still great! The Bass button is good for low volume Bass enhancement but I keep it on "clear" most of the time. The on/off button is nice, the rechargeable battery was a needed addition also. SQ is good to me. I was surprised at how small this thing is, the size of the Sansa Clip! I am going to move up to one of the nicer amps in time, but for the moment this will do just fine. It's well worth the $20.00 I paid for it.
post #810 of 1733
E3, neutral?

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