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post #31 of 46
I agree with most Head-Fi members, the crystallized option on my Xmod simply artificially clarifies the sound, producing cracks and pops most of the time, even with high-quality audio and normal listening volumes.

But I must add, that listening to low-quality 128kpbs .mp3 audio with lower volumes than normal, it feels like an enhancement.

The bottom line though, is that I don't like the crystallizer and I never use it.
post #32 of 46
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Originally Posted by Jaawa View Post
But I must add, that listening to low-quality 128kpbs .mp3 audio with lower volumes than normal, it feels like an enhancement.
Sorry to resurect this thread but I found it via Google.

I think the Crystallizer feature, at like 25%, makes a low quality source like Pandora One (the "high" quality version of Pandora) sound a good bit better on my 'phone. Any higher and it gets too bright and causes ear fatigue. FWIW.
post #33 of 46
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Interesting to see this thread resurrected.
I now don't agree with my previous opinions. I think crystallizer is a fake exciter that basically detracts from the audio. Also, I don't use my soundcard anymore as a source and I've gotten used to the neutrality of a dac rather than the exciter.
post #34 of 46
OzoneMP will do a far better job than this weak multiband compressor.
post #35 of 46
The first and most that I noticed from Crystallizer is the Sibilance, since then I had it turned off.
post #36 of 46
It's great for some songs, not so great for others. I don't see why anyone would complain about it.
post #37 of 46
so much misinformation on x-fi settings.

cmss3d sux for music
cmss3d is a must for games that support 3d/surround sound. unless you want plain stereo sound. it turns on directsound3d/openal 3d sound effects in games that support those standards. it also converts 5.1 sound into headphone 3d sound in games that only support that (like half life 2), just like dolby headphone
post #38 of 46
For compressed audio, I like it (read: you-tube and other bad sources). For well encoded music and lossless, I leave it off.

CMSS Headphone is great by the way. I use it for gaming and movies. With music, you'll notice the distortion though.
post #39 of 46
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Originally Posted by ourfpshero View Post
so much misinformation on x-fi settings.

cmss3d sux for music
cmss3d is a must for games that support 3d/surround sound. unless you want plain stereo sound. it turns on directsound3d/openal 3d sound effects in games that support those standards. it also converts 5.1 sound into headphone 3d sound in games that only support that (like half life 2), just like dolby headphone
CMSS-3D sucks compared to Dolby Headphone IMO. I prefer using Dolby Digital Live and feed that to my SU-DH1 compared to CMSS-3D. Not to mention Dolby Headphone can actually work well for music.
post #40 of 46
cmss3d gives better surround then dolby headphone though. But yes it distort the sound a lot. Try F.E.A.R for example

I have never ever thought of using dolby headphone for music. Sometimes I switch it off for movies as well that has a lot of music for maximum sound quality. CMSS3D I have never used for movies.
post #41 of 46
I thought CMS3d was used to convert stereo audio to multichannel, I always leave it disabled, games with EAX are multichannel by default.
post #42 of 46
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Originally Posted by oqvist View Post
cmss3d gives better surround then dolby headphone though.
No it doesn't, not even close really. What are you using for Dolby Headphone? Could be a difference in implementation.

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I have never ever thought of using dolby headphone for music. Sometimes I switch it off for movies as well that has a lot of music for maximum sound quality. CMSS3D I have never used for movies.
It doesn't distort really so it shouldn't cause problems for music. It includes plenty of benefits including being probably the smartest crossfeed filter you can buy.
post #43 of 46
CMS3D and Crystaliser are both crud, turn them both off. And EQ. Also CMS3D is way inferior to Lexion Music Surround.
post #44 of 46
CMSS has different modes. It'll create virtual speakers from a stereo system. It'll simulate a surround sound environment with headphones (different setting that the virtual speaker mentioned before) and it'll up convert stereo to multichannel in a number of ways.
post #45 of 46
I honestly think the crystaliser makes my music sound better, it takes any muddyness out of the sound. but hey i have never used it with high end speakers, only with my old crappy logitechs and my borrowed bose (which are still better than those ****ty logitechs) as far as headphones go i have no comment my first pair of good cans is arriving today in a few hours. i game as well as listen to music and creative cards are designed to take the audio processing load off the cpu. whether asus cards do that too i don't know. if they do it's a definite future upgrade. so far it seems all the arguments against the crystaliser are only personal opinions i haven't heard any real legitimate arguments that it makes things sound worst. it even makes my 925kbps Lotus - Escaping Sargasso Sea album sound better imo
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