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Originally Posted by perrew View Post
I used to own the HD800, T1, LCD-2r1, HE5-LE among others but have sold all of them and stayed with the AD2K which Im happy with.

Im wondering if someone have compared the AD2Ks on a GLite with original cable vs. on a GS-X recabled, my question, which understandably is hard to answer for anyone else, but is there any discernable difference which makes it worth going to the more expensive amp and recable to balanced?

Tks

 

I used to own those headphones too and sold all of them, except for re-acquiring the HD800 as a counterpart to the AD2K.

 

My AD2K started out w/ original cable, though my first HeadAmp amp was the GS-1, not the GL, though I did later hear it on the GL, still with the stock cable. When I had the headphones re-cabled to balanced with the APureSound V3 in 2007, my amp at the time was the GS-X. So my experience incidentally meets your criteria.

 

I've already written this several times in other threads, including my AD2K 5-year re-review (which is linked in this article: http://www.head-fi.org/a/asr-head-fi-threads-compendium), and I'd recommend not re-cabling the AD2K, either with a single-ended or balanced cable. There was no difference to me between single-ended and balanced, and I thought the re-cable in single-ended form provided no sonic difference either.

 

If I owned only the AD2K, I'd part with the GS-X as it offers absolutely no advantages for it over the GS-1 or GL. The GS-1 offers a slight functional improvement for the AD2K with its switchable lower 3x gain (compared to the GL's 6x gain). The only reason I own the GS-X is for my HD800 and IEMs (as its unity gain is useful for that purpose). Though I use my AD2K balanced anyway, because that's just how it's cabled now, I don't recommend that anyone does the same as it was a net-loss pursuit. The AD2K w/ stock cable on the GL is the best it gets, IMO. There's no need to look into any of HeadAmp's other amps. The only other improvements to be had can be found from other single-ended amps like the Eddie Current Zana Deux, or others.

 

In my experience, re-cabling in general offers little sonic improvement, and balanced re-cables on low-impedance high-sensitivity headphones are an absolute waste of time & money. I've never heard a low-impedance high-sensitivity headphone that actually sounded better balanced. The only headphones I've heard that benefitted from balanced were either low-impedance low-sensitivity (AKG K701) or high-impedance low-sensitivity (Senn HD6x0, HD800).

 

I've found "balanced" to be overrated, and I've heard a fair number of balanced headphones, amps, & sources. If I could go back in time, I'd stop myself from getting into balanced equipment and would look into higher-quality unbalanced equipment.


Edited by Asr - 7/6/12 at 12:16am
post #512 of 776
Asr, thank you very much for that honest answer!
Saves me alot of time and energy not recabling those phones. I had tried some of the other phones with different cables but couldnt detect any major differences so was hoping the AD2Ks were the same.
I Will not buy another headphone, Im perfectly happy with these, so will try to find à GL although they seem hard to find. One last thing, did you mean the ZD would be an improvement over the GS-X?
Cheers P
post #513 of 776

Just to throw in my worthless opinions.

 

Beta 22 + AD2000 > GS-1 + AD2000. I wouldn't have thought it would be that way but the ß22 just drives them better. A little bit more impact.

 

As for cables... well I have a well used, USA -> UK -> Australia, Moon Audio Black Dragon cabled one and a brand spanking new one and well.... they sound similar to me. There are some small differences but that probably comes down to the differences in the drivers and not the cable. I like pretty looking cables though redface.gif.

post #514 of 776
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Originally Posted by perrew View Post
One last thing, did you mean the ZD would be an improvement over the GS-X?

 

No, I meant the ZD would be an improvement in general over amps in the same class as the GL. The GS-X is the ultimate refinement of the GL and easily beats it overall, but none of those refinements are really important or noticeable on the AD2K. Putting the ZD up against the GS-X makes no sense to me as they're different amp types.

 

For top-class amping of the AD2K specifically, the ZD does make a better choice than the GS-X, but that's only because the GS-X is optimal in balanced mode and the AD2K doesn't benefit from balanced operation. There are other amps that are supposed to drive the AD2K well too. Not that I've heard any of them, especially with the AD2K, but I've seen mentions of the Audio-Technica HA5000 and Yamamoto HA-02 for example. In general, solid-state and transformer-coupled tube amps are ideal to meet the high-current demands of the AD2K, though there certainly OTL exceptions like the ZD. The aforementioned B22 is a great choice for driving other headphones in addition to the AD2K (but it's overkill for only the AD2K).

 

If I had to pick an Eddie Current amp for the AD2K, it'd be the Super 7. Not that I've heard it, because I haven't, but its specs suggest that it will effectively drive the AD2K, and I'd guess that the combo would sound pretty good too. Craig of EC has his own pair of the AD2K that he uses with his amps, which I like because it ensures that his amps will have low gain. (The AD2K is very sensitive to gain.)


Edited by Asr - 7/10/12 at 12:01am
post #515 of 776

Recently Picked myself up a Gilmore lite to join my AD2000

 

Before i ask my question i will simply say how great i find the AD2ks :)

 

My setup will be like this x-fi T-HD > GL > AD2k.

 

Now i need a decent pair of RCA cables to go between my soundcard and my amp.

 

Any recommendations?

 

Currently have a a pair of belkin pure av silvers.

 

Cheers :)


Edited by Mattyhew - 8/7/12 at 3:24pm
post #516 of 776
Some basic cables with do.
post #517 of 776

I wonder how the AD2K pairs with the BHA-1, it has a low gain switch so it'll be interesting.  As soon as I get my hands on a pair I'll find out.

post #518 of 776

Loving the AD2000 with the Grace m903. Great sounding pairing, IMO.

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What genres of music do you find yourself picking up the AD2000?
post #520 of 776
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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO View Post

What genres of music do you find yourself picking up the AD2000?

Whatever I'm liking at the moment. Currently it's the new Genki Rockets remix album as well as Gotye. And maybe a little Rx Bandits. Haven't listened to much else lately. The W5000 also sounds pretty good for all these bands, but Genki Rockets in particular does a little better on the AD2000.. I am very interested in the Denon D7100. Waiting for more reviews.

post #521 of 776
Bu the W5000 has no bass....

Just kidding.

The D7100 thread is whacked. I stopped reading it after one poster did 3 backflips. Then someone said one of the Denons sounded better backwards. :S Colour me confused.
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I am thinking getting an AD2000 by end of the year , to get something different from my T1 , 8 months with it , very pleased , but as my only one headphone , time to time i feel the need to have something else that sound quite different . And i always been looking at AD2000 ... 

 

Or another A2000X , the only headphone that i regret have sold . 


Edited by HaVoC-28 - 8/16/12 at 6:11pm
post #523 of 776
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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO View Post

The D7100 thread is whacked. I stopped reading it after one poster did 3 backflips. Then someone said one of the Denons sounded better backwards. :S Colour me confused.

 

+100.

 

Someone said the same thing about wearing the MA900 backwards, haha.

post #524 of 776
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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO View Post

Bu the W5000 has no bass....
Just kidding.
The D7100 thread is whacked. I stopped reading it after one poster did 3 backflips. Then someone said one of the Denons sounded better backwards. :S Colour me confused.

I am actually looking for a slightly bass heavy headphone. That's why I am waiting for reviews on the D7100. Mainly looking for a little exaggerated mid bass for some trance/electronic music. Typically I find the AD2000 and W5000 to do just fine, but sometimes a little more weight might be fun. Decisions. :P

post #525 of 776

Who has these at a good price?

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