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post #196 of 776

There's not much to be confused about- if you're interested in a pair of cans that would deliever the most engaging- not accurate- exprience with those music genres that you listed and you don't mind a forward mids presentation the AD2k are the best dynamics i've listened to, it's very unique colored sound but when it clicks it's very addictive to listen to in my expreience. Sadly i had to let mine go recently to free some funds but if i ever go back to a fun yet very technically capable headphones these would be on top of my list.

post #197 of 776
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Originally Posted by ZenErik View Post
Thank you. I have already read through a few of those threads, but the Luxman one is new to me. It looks like my amp will not cut it for the AD2000.

 

Edit: The Sheer Audio HA-006+ or HA-006++ both seem to be a fairly cheap dynalo options. Has anyone here tried them with the AD2000? Thanks!

 

Also, the best new price I can find for these is at Yes-Asia. http://www.yesasia.com/us/audio-technica-ath-ad2000-headphones/1021566114-0-0-0-en/info.html

They're a trustworthy site for import movies, CDs, videogames, etc. Any reason I shouldn't trust them for the ATH-AD2000? Just want to make sure i don't get some sort of knock off, if they exist.

 

I wouldn't expect the Sheer Audio model to really sound any different from something like the HeadAmp Gilmore Lite. They're both based on the Dynalo which is a discrete circuit, so no op-amps to potentially affect the sound. If you get a Sheer Audio amp, make sure to get low gain on it, as high gain will lead to frustration trying to control sensitive headphones like the AD2K.

 

I don't have any experience with YesAsia.com but based on their ResellerRatings profile (http://www.resellerratings.com/store/YesAsia), I wouldn't personally buy from that site. At the same price I'd rather buy from AccessoryJack.com (http://www.resellerratings.com/store/AccessoryJack), which I have previous positive experience with. The only Audio-Technica knock-offs I've ever read about are ES7s, so you probably don't need to worry about that.

 

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Originally Posted by zeroakuma View Post
I currently have the Audio Technica AD 700 as my open ended headphones which I use along my Denon AH-D7000 headphones. I would either like to buy the Sennheiser HD 800 or this headphone after reading a review done by a board member. The AD-2000 headphone will make me enjoy my techno, rap, and rock music, but I wonder if buying or waiting for the HD 800 is a better choice.

 

Thoughts?

 

I generally agree with the previous posts on the HD800 vs AD2K. I'd add that you could buy either of them and probably easily re-sell them. If you bought used, that would help minimize cost too if you did re-sell later.

 

If you have the budget for something as high as the HD800, I'd recommend something more like the Audeze LCD-2 for your music genres. You might also want to read the first 2 reviews that I linked in my post #188, if you haven't already, as those contain comments on the AD2K vs HD800. The HD800 may be objectively "technically" better than the AD2K in some aspects, but as an owner of both, I subjectively prefer the AD2K far more than the HD800 as I find it more enjoyable with electronica (except ambient), rock, & metal. I use the HD800 for other genres - classical, bluegrass, & ambient electronica. The AD2K is such an accelerated-, full-sounding headphone that almost every other headphone that you could possibly compare it to (including orthos and electrostats) will sound either dead or asleep in comparison, the HD800 included. I've written before that most headphones sound like they're walking - the AD2K, on the other hand, sounds like it's always running - and not just running, but running forward directly towards you with an aggressive mean streak. In comparison the HD800 might as well be asleep at the wheel, it's that passive-sounding.

 

Though if you already have headphones that you like, I don't see why you'd get something else. Reading stuff on Head-Fi is a recipe for upgraditis especially since this site is full of enablers. I recommend just listening & enjoying your music.

post #198 of 776

Edit: This was posted before I saw Asr's comments, I replied to them in my double post below.

 

The HD800 is by far the most musical and engaging headphone I've heard in my life. Not so much for some genres though, without equalization (where it displays astounding versatility). Just goes to show that we all listen to different types of music and have different hearing characteristics paired with headphones, let alone different stigmas associated with equalization. Tonality and coloration is by all means a preference thing, and your opinion that the AD2000 default coloration/sound sig is preferred is absolutely a valid one, in the context of yourself.

 

Any assertion that the AD2000 beats the HD800 in raw sound quality in any way, however, is an argument I can tell you that will lose. I feel sorry for those who refuse to use equalization though, especially those who have a grudge against any frequency range (whether it be treble or bass).

 

But let's get back to the AD2000 appreciation. When I had it, I did like the default sound signature. Particularly nice for K-pop and the like. The sound sig is a taste that is quite appealing at times, although I often change moods from mid centric to U sig to neutral to bassy, etc. etc.; hence my advocation of equalization rather than purchase of 10x headphones.

 

The only reason I sold it was I realized that through equalization I could achieve more or less same thing with better bass impact on my HD650, and as far as default sound signatures go, I just don't listen to enough of the AD2000-preferred genres to make it worth keeping in my inventory.

 

I must say, it is a very comfortable headphone (IMO), unique, and in all honesty if I was collecting headphones, the AD2000 would absolutely be on my 'hall' of favorites.


Edited by ac500 - 3/12/12 at 10:49am
post #199 of 776

The HD800 may be objectively "technically" better than the AD2K in some aspects, but as an owner of both, I subjectively prefer the AD2K far more than the HD800 as I find it more enjoyable with electronica (except ambient), rock, & metal. I use the HD800 for other genres - classical, bluegrass, & ambient electronica. The AD2K is such an accelerated-, full-sounding headphone that almost every other headphone that you could possibly compare it to (including orthos and electrostats) will sound either dead or asleep in comparison, the HD800 included. I've written before that most headphones sound like they're walking - the AD2K, on the other hand, sounds like it's always running - and not just running, but running forward directly towards you with an aggressive mean streak. In comparison the HD800 might as well be asleep at the wheel, it's that passive-sounding.

 

That is really interesting that you say that, because in my experience it's the exact opposite. The HD800 engages me and excites in a way no other headphone can even come close (LCD2 included). The AD2000, LCD2, HD650 and the like put me to sleep.

 

I am fascinated by how what we are hearing is the complete opposite, in terms of our interpretation of the sound signature. The HD800's technical superiority may be agreed by mass consensus of course, but it always interests me in how different people can hear so much difference in the same headphones, sound signature-wise.

post #200 of 776
The AD1000PRM/AD2000 is outright the most involving headphones I have heard in my life, Edition 8 come close to second, where the vocal is less pronounced. Closest I found is a pair of SR-404LE on SRM-727, technically far superior but still not as engaging, funny how both my home headphones have very similar sound signature. Maybe I am just addicted, until A2000X for a second time or SR-009, I will just stay addicted.
post #201 of 776

Yes, it was ASR's review! I came to a consensus that the HD800 is much more suitable for classical/voice songs, but what about the AD2000?

 

I have the AD700 which is used mostly for enjoying classical music and movies. Would the AD2000 fair well with female vocals/classics?

 

Since ASR recommended the Audeze LCD-2, what are some pros/cons? Thanks ASR!

post #202 of 776

Is there a good place to buy these used? Any head-fi owner want to sell it to me? ^_^

post #203 of 776

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Originally Posted by Asr View Post

If you have the budget for something as high as the HD800, I'd recommend something more like the Audeze LCD-2 for your music genres. You might also want to read the first 2 reviews that I linked in my post #188, if you haven't already, as those contain comments on the AD2K vs HD800. The HD800 may be objectively "technically" better than the AD2K in some aspects, but as an owner of both, I subjectively prefer the AD2K far more than the HD800 as I find it more enjoyable with electronica (except ambient), rock, & metal. I use the HD800 for other genres - classical, bluegrass, & ambient electronica. The AD2K is such an accelerated-, full-sounding headphone that almost every other headphone that you could possibly compare it to (including orthos and electrostats) will sound either dead or asleep in comparison, the HD800 included. I've written before that most headphones sound like they're walking - the AD2K, on the other hand, sounds like it's always running - and not just running, but running forward directly towards you with an aggressive mean streak. In comparison the HD800 might as well be asleep at the wheel, it's that passive-sounding.

 

Though if you already have headphones that you like, I don't see why you'd get something else. Reading stuff on Head-Fi is a recipe for upgraditis especially since this site is full of enablers. I recommend just listening & enjoying your music.


 

This exactly mirrors my thoughts and impressions as well after owning the HD800 for almost a year prior to obtaining one of the first generation LCD-2 R1s.  The HD800 has a sound stage that amazes for a select few genres of electronica, but I would gladly give that up for the palpable traits and heft that you get with the LCD-2 sound that the HD800 can only dream of providing.

 

Honestly it was one of the quickest decisions I have made in my headphone history when the LCD-2 arrived and I compared it to the HD800.  I could have afforded to keep both but just didn't see a need at all for the HD800 in my inventory.  The LCD-2 was a revelation.  It allowed me to see just how much of the soul of the music I was missing by solely using the HD800.

 

Knowing my impressions are in line with those from Asr makes me really want to sample an AD2000.

post #204 of 776

I'm wondering how the new HD700 might compare to the AD2000. After getting the AD I'm pretty much settled till I could have an audition of those.

post #205 of 776
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Originally Posted by zeroakuma View Post
Yes, it was ASR's review! I came to a consensus that the HD800 is much more suitable for classical/voice songs, but what about the AD2000?

 

I have the AD700 which is used mostly for enjoying classical music and movies. Would the AD2000 fair well with female vocals/classics?

 

Since ASR recommended the Audeze LCD-2, what are some pros/cons? Thanks ASR!


I wrote this review of the LCD-2: http://www.head-fi.org/t/548875/review-audeze-lcd-2-r1-r2-hifiman-he-6-stax-sr-507-stax-oii-mki-bhse-et-al

 

If you haven't yet, I recommend reading the reviews I linked already, including their attached notes files.

 

The headphone classifieds section is here: http://www.head-fi.org/f/6550/headphones-for-sale-trade


Edited by Asr - 3/12/12 at 3:28pm
post #206 of 776

I find the AD2000 and the HD 800 to both be picky about amplification but in completely different ways.

 

I like the HD 800 the most out of a pretty high-end tube amp with balanced source and cabling. With the right tubes, its supposed "flaws" are eliminated entirely. I really like my LCD-2 r.1 out of the same setup but have been reaching for the HD 800 way more often unless I am listening to a substandard recording.

 

The AD2000 is a weird beast to me. I used to prefer it out of my HTR's headphone port, but the Edition 8 is better in that respect. I also liked it out of my AV123 x-head but then I tried a D5000 out of it and it was leagues better. Where the AD2000 really shines for me is out of my iMod > Vcap (4,7uF) dock > Headstage Arrow, it actually out-performs my Edition 8 with that rig. Unfortunately it's impractical for even transportable use so it collects dust. I can't bring myself to sell it just yet, but that could change. I would love to try the Yamamoto headamp with them.


Edited by grokit - 3/12/12 at 4:21pm
post #207 of 776

There's one thing the Ad2000 does that no other headphone I've heard has been able to do as well, make me forget about the sound and enjoy the heck out the music. I've never heard a headphone as engaging and musical as the Ad2000, then again I've not heard any other top-tier headphones.

post #208 of 776

I have heard both and found the HD800 to indeed sound amazing. The technicalities of that headphone are truly top-of-the-line, and the soundstage is legendary.

 

I'm also completely unable to actually enjoy my music from them. Meanwhile, the AD2000 just throws the music in my face, tells me to stop thinking about "micro-detail, soundstage space, roll-off, decay, frequency response blah bzzt" and start bobbing my head to music. I like that. I haven't heard the 800s out of mind-blowingly expensive tube amps though, I heard that helps things along.

post #209 of 776

Oh Omnirai, you probably  just heavily swayed me into the ATH-AD2000's direction. Meanwhile, I will check out ASR's reviews and enjoy my music through Denon AH-D7000 and my portable M-50s.

 

Thanks A LOT!

post #210 of 776

I'm definitely biased - the AD2000s are love-it or hate-it phones, I just happen to love it. That's why I own a pair, and that's why I'm going to be biased towards its merits as I've heard it for so long. It was uncomfortable to me though - I had to stretch the headband and stuff the pads to make it bearable.

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