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You're right, (like they say) I should have read the fine print ...  This basically rules out resistor-network adapter as an option for me as I am not inclined to add a switch in front of the Main speaker out.


Yep - in terms of swiching flexibility the analogue / digital thing with the Zones and analogue outputs really puts a damper on what you can do with the Onkyo's..... 

 

You build a sophisticated DAC and switcher and then knobble its usefullness !?!  

 

Mind you I usually run with an external power amp for my speakers - so I can leave the Headtap in place if I want to..... but I doubt I will.

post #77 of 84
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You're right, (like they say) I should have read the fine print ...  This basically rules out resistor-network adapter as an option for me as I am not inclined to add a switch in front of the Main speaker out.


Mind you - the HP amp is pretty good on these .... NE5532's with discrete buffer stage...

post #78 of 84

I submit the Rotel 810a integrated amp. It's black, sleek, but nothing really to look at. But in a pinch, I've used it's HP jack, and it sounds awesome.

post #79 of 84
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I have a Yamaha RDX v-440 and its headout is pretty horrid. Lots of bass but everything else is missing.


A Yamaha rep told me that their in their latest lineup of AV receivers, RX-V7xx and below have mediocre sound.  More work was put into video than sound.

post #80 of 84

The Audiospace mini-2004 has a very good headphone output as well as great speakers outs, it's an all tube integrated.


Edited by MichealAngelo - 9/20/10 at 12:29pm
post #81 of 84

Can anyone say whether the currently available Denon multi-zone receivers have the same digital input issues with secondary zones (eg. the Denon DRA-397)?

 

I would really like to purchase a new pre-amp with a great all-around headphone amp with selectable gain so that it will work with a wide range of headphones - in addition to all the modern features that pre-amps generally come with such as bass and treble controls along with a "pure audio" type option to bypass them. A remote. Selectable multiple inputs. The ability to switch between the pre-amp outs and the headphone jack so that the pre-amp outs are not live when listening to headphones. Alternately a receiver with said features - although with powered monitors I don't need the speaker amp. Even a full-featured all-in-one unit with built in high quality DAC.

 

There seems to be a disconnect on the part of Home Audio manufacturers not understanding the big increase in Headphone usage these days and the importance of a quality headphone output vs. the Headphone Amp makers who rarely include anything but the basics. I know there are a couple of exceptions out there but for the most part I am not finding much.

 

/rant

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Can anyone say whether the currently available Denon multi-zone receivers have the same digital input issues with secondary zones (eg. the Denon DRA-397)?

I think you would have a better shot at getting an answer if you post this question on the Denon Owner threads over at the AVSforum.

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I would really like to purchase a new pre-amp with a great all-around headphone amp with selectable gain so that it will work with a wide range of headphones - in addition to all the modern features that pre-amps generally come with such as bass and treble controls along with a "pure audio" type option to bypass them. A remote. Selectable multiple inputs. The ability to switch between the pre-amp outs and the headphone jack so that the pre-amp outs are not live when listening to headphones. Alternately a receiver with said features - although with powered monitors I don't need the speaker amp. Even a full-featured all-in-one unit with built in high quality DAC.

You might find this comparison of the SSP & Pre/Pros of interest:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=12233966&postcount=1

post #83 of 84

Hooked my AKG K-702s to my NAD c352 for conveniences sake a few months back... And sold my x-can v3 as a result.

 

Don’t know how/why/when but it just works well with the K-702’s strengths and the treble control allows to keep the can´s sparkle in check when needed (and when not needed, the tone defeat button brings the raw material (sort of speak) back).

 

It’s just a bit big though...

post #84 of 84
Thread Starter 

Just thought I'd revive this old thread as I'm after more info on the type of HP circuit used in high-end Onkyo amps and receivers (discussed in detail previous page). Having lived with an Onkyo 9555 digital amp now for several weeks I'm sufficiently impressed with its HP performance (Senn HD650) to want to know as much about the circuit as possible (Dialoum kindly provided a circuit diagram, but I'm too technically ignorant to interpret it). For instance I'd love to know how the manufacturers come up with these circuits--whether they're designed in-house or whether they license them from independent designers. I'm also interested in people's subjective experiences with higher-end Onkyo amps (apparently all the better Onkyo amps and receivers use the same HP circuit).

 

If anyone has any further subjective HP impressions from other brand amps and receivers, that'd be good too.

 

 

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