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post #16 of 61
Bose products (wave radio, wave system) produce clear sound, but they have no feeling, no oomph, it's like the sound is disembodied, like it's fake, I don't like it, it has no impact whatsoever, if you want wildly small speakers, why not get a low-output receiver and hook up some infinity 4" kappa speakers to it (car speakers), it'd sound far better, and you'd still have enough dough for a good sub!, if the wave radio was 300 dollars less it would be good, but 500 dollars (CD) is extremely overpriced, and 1100 for the system is just ludicrous, they sound good, but terrible compared to other systems in the price range (Auvi...yeah)
post #17 of 61
In my brief auditions of the Bose Wave Radio, the best adjective I would use to describe it is "unnatural." Very midrangey, with drastically and artificially boosted midbass, and no real high end and (obviously) no real lows.

OTOH, I didn't care for the TIVOLI radios either -- to me they simply sound muddy and, yes, "veiled."
post #18 of 61
Consumer reports has only actually been sued twice,once by Audi and once by Mazda/Ford over the SUV rollover thing.Both cases were dismissed.They have been threatened with hundreds of lawsuits but the prospect of suing a mag which actually buys the product they are testing and accepts no advertising is kind of fruitless.They are testing what the average consumer buys and in the manner in which they will use it.The Bose radio is what the typical non-audiophile user wants.I had one and it doesn't sound terrible but there are better products for my needs,which are best sound quality.Consumer reports is one of the few magazines that I think is above typical reproach.That mag has survived many,many assualts on it's credibility over the years from many dissatisfied companies and organizations(remember the battery companies attack on them back in the late-80s)and has come out smelling clean.If you read it in Consumer Reports you may not agree with it but at least it ain't tainted.
post #19 of 61
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Originally posted by Tuberoller
Consumer reports has only actually been sued twice,once by Audi and once by Mazda/Ford over the SUV rollover thing.Both cases were dismissed.
Tube, Bose sued Consumer Reports in the 70s -- the case made it to the Supreme Court -- for a review of a set of Bose 901 speakers that was slightly negative.

More info:
Bose Corp. v. Consumers Union of United States, Inc., 466 U.S. 485 (1984) (holding that in Consumer Reports' criticism of Bose products in its product evaluation, Bose is a public figure and therefore must prove by clear and convincing evidence that Consumer Reports published its comments with actual knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard of the truth in order to bring a libel action).

More:
http://www.paranzino.com/libel.html (scroll down to Part II)




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If you read it in Consumer Reports you may not agree with it but at least it ain't tainted.
Correct. My problem with Consumer Reports, however, is that their expertise and testing methods simply aren't appropriate for audio products. Their methods are perfect for things like toasters, washing machines, hair dryers, etc. But for audio products, they just don't have the expertise, and perform flawed "testing."

For example, they have panels of "consumers," as well as "experts" that they hire to test products. Yet when they test sound quality, they don't hire people trained in audio or people who have trained ears. They bring in a bunch of Joes off the street -- people whose idea of great sound is a Sony boombox -- and ask them what sounds better. So they get people who think that the fake, uninvolving sound of the Bose Wave Radio sounds better than the far more natural sound of the Tivoli, or the far more accurate sound of the Cambridge.
post #20 of 61
Consumer, not Audiophile Reports. I think that says it all. Most consumers can't tell good sound quality from crap.
post #21 of 61
Thread Starter 
Awesome link MacDEF. Thanks. Speaks more poorly of Consumer Reports than Bose actually.... it does sound like no one ever disagreed with this Federal District Court finding:

"The Court, as trier of fact, found that the statement in the article that 'individual instruments heard through the Bose system seemed to grow to gigantic proportions and tended to wander about the room' was both false and disparaging."

Sounds like the Consumer Reports review was just plain dumb, comically dumb. (This from a Consumer Reports fan and non-Bose-hater.) Bose wasn't crazy to sue, and the Courts were divided as to whether Consumer Reports had committed actual malice. Sounds like it was a close case.

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Originally posted by MacDEF
Tube, Bose sued Consumer Reports in the 70s -- the case made it to the Supreme Court -- for a review of a set of Bose 901 speakers that was slightly negative.

More info:
Bose Corp. v. Consumers Union of United States, Inc., 466 U.S. 485 (1984) (holding that in Consumer Reports' criticism of Bose products in its product evaluation, Bose is a public figure and therefore must prove by clear and convincing evidence that Consumer Reports published its comments with actual knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard of the truth in order to bring a libel action).

More:
http://www.paranzino.com/libel.html (scroll down to Part II)
post #22 of 61
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Then there's also the fact that the last time Consumer Reports gave a Bose product a poor rating, they got sued...
I HATE BOSE SO VERY MUCH !!!!!
post #23 of 61
I guess Bose will do ANYTHING to get people to buy their stuff. Screw Bose.
post #24 of 61
I went to my local NEX and tried on the bose triports, and I'd have to say that they don't feel good, the band is sh*t and eggos have a far superior build quality, they weren't connected, but felt really bad...and are hideous...they are really bad

I saw the new Pro4aa Ti's at radioshack the other day and they look decent (old ones look better) but they had A RUBBER PAD!! (the covering), I was like WTF!!, it'd stick to you like a mother and be uncomfortable as sh*t!!
post #25 of 61
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Originally posted by D-EJ915
I went to my local NEX and tried on the bose triports, and I'd have to say that they don't feel good, the band is sh*t and eggos have a far superior build quality, they weren't connected, but felt really bad...and are hideous...they are really bad
A while ago I was stuck with listening to "the headphones which must not be named" for 2 months. You do not know what bad is until you have experienced what I have (*shudders*).
post #26 of 61
Just goes to show how effective marketing can influence Consumer Reports. I will say this, Bose does an excellent job at marketing their products. People hear the name, see the expensive price tag, and assume it is a great radio. I admit, I fell for it, bought a Wave CD two years ago, found this website, became educated regarding other products, sold the Wave on eBay for $25.00 less than what I paid, and bought a Tivoli Model II with a sub. Tivoli beats the Bose by a mile! In both sound/looks/price/ease of use. I could'nt believe it when I heard it. I have my 963SA hooked into it, and it makes a nice little bedside system. As for Bose, never again for me!
post #27 of 61
i operated one of those big bose cd/radio jobs at a wedding. about the only good thing about it is it plays loud. the mid-bass was very boomy, very annoying. plus it is butt-ugly.
post #28 of 61
I've heard the Bose Wave extensively, and I OWN the Tivoli PAL.

The Bose is OK, but the Tivoli is just downright better. Impact, depth, precision, even bass. The Tivoli is a superb piece of technology, and I applaud Henry Kloss. The Bose is not, and I do not applaud that pathetic company.
post #29 of 61
Its kinda weird. Maybe bose has some sort of agreement with the large chain stores where their products are always the most expensive on display.
post #30 of 61
The $2,000+ bose system that I heard (don't know the name of it, was a six-speaker plus massive sub and cdp design) wasn't comparable to the sound quality of DT250-80s.

The wave radio is definitely overpriced but it's a simple case of excellent marketing: inferior products being sold for ridiculous prices whilst magically satisfying customers.

Cheers,
Geek
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