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Originally Posted by iJimmy View Post
 

Hey man,

 

I've really been on and off all forums this year, but have time to look at them now. We should probably still exchange feedback? ^^ How's the D2k?

 

yea feed back might be handy, I'm liking it, I preferd it over the HE 400 I had, but I prefer the HE 4 over both,  ofc though it looks gorgeous! 

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Originally Posted by KimChee View Post
 

I've owned a D7000 before, it's got slightly better resolution, smoother but less bright highs, a bit more depth, less bass than D2000 though its tighter, it's a bit more balanced.  To me however the differences are very subtle, maybe 10% or so. YMMV.

Well I've modded My D2k, and less bass would be an improvement imo,

post #3842 of 4644

So, errr... there's a pair of D5000 cups in the classifieds for $50.

 

READY...SET........GO!

post #3843 of 4644

IMHO, for those of you who still have the stock cable I suggest you upgrade it even to DIY Mogami stuff. My local vintage gear guru shop just did a fully balanced XLR/speaker taps/ SE 3.5" re-cable for me and he said the before and after SQ smoothness was quite noticeable on the upper end.

We were using an early 90s Sansui CD transport for testing just SE and it was lovely.

 

There is just something up with that stock cable or it does not pair particularly well with these cans.But all that is down to taste/preference.


Edited by Lohb - 6/23/14 at 11:35pm
post #3844 of 4644

Couple of words about metal music + D2000.
(Summary on impressions on metal + 37 cans is here http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution)

 

Denon AH-D2000 (padauk cups mod)
Bad guys (in a good sense) even against “not so good guys” colleagues)) Mod consists of 1) replacement of the cups - padauk cups installed and 2) tonal balance adjustment by sound absorbing material application. Result – very bass-heavy and heavy-weight headphones (probably another reason for gestalt response with heavy metal genres). Bass is powerful and well-controlled. Denon X000 drive is in place. Mids, alas, are imperfect, a bit recessed as compared with original D2000/D5000. Soundstage is narrow. Highs are quite acceptable.

 

What’s good:
Black: Dark, dense and comfortable. Feels like Alien’s larva rotating in the mucus in the parent shell.
Doom: Ununexpectedly great. With such a bass it can not be not great.
Heavy Metal: Wood consonant to live (at least relatively live) genres. Another confirmation.
Industrial: Wooden sledgehammer gives lessons of Industrial with a human face. (Key point - concentrated bass hits right to the spot).
Thrash: Moderately natural and immoderately involving. Bass - exactly what you need, ample but well controlled and concentrated.

 

What’s not so good:
Symphonic: Not their day (genre). Narrowish scene and pluses (fat bass) become more outs.
Progressive: Alas, sheer lack of subtlety, delicacy and space.
Goth: Instead of light melancholy we have boredom here – looks like Shrek is in sadness.

 

In total, one of the best cans for the metal. And once again, not too versatile / neutral headphones. Love / hate test is presumed. 

post #3845 of 4644
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Originally Posted by levap View Post
 

Couple of words about metal music + D2000.
(Summary on impressions on metal + 37 cans is here http://www.head-fi.org/t/715478/headphones-for-metal-music-ultimate-solution)

 

Denon AH-D2000 (padauk cups mod)
Bad guys (in a good sense) even against “not so good guys” colleagues)) Mod consists of 1) replacement of the cups - padauk cups installed and 2) tonal balance adjustment by sound absorbing material application. Result – very bass-heavy and heavy-weight headphones (probably another reason for gestalt response with heavy metal genres). Bass is powerful and well-controlled. Denon X000 drive is in place. Mids, alas, are imperfect, a bit recessed as compared with original D2000/D5000. Soundstage is narrow. Highs are quite acceptable.

 

What’s good:
Black: Dark, dense and comfortable. Feels like Alien’s larva rotating in the mucus in the parent shell.
Doom: Ununexpectedly great. With such a bass it can not be not great.
Heavy Metal: Wood consonant to live (at least relatively live) genres. Another confirmation.
Industrial: Wooden sledgehammer gives lessons of Industrial with a human face. (Key point - concentrated bass hits right to the spot).
Thrash: Moderately natural and immoderately involving. Bass - exactly what you need, ample but well controlled and concentrated.

 

What’s not so good:
Symphonic: Not their day (genre). Narrowish scene and pluses (fat bass) become more outs.
Progressive: Alas, sheer lack of subtlety, delicacy and space.
Goth: Instead of light melancholy we have boredom here – looks like Shrek is in sadness.

 

In total, one of the best cans for the metal. And once again, not too versatile / neutral headphones. Love / hate test is presumed. 

I found the D2k with Cocobolo Rose Wood Cups, the Lawton Pads and Lawton Driver mods the D2k works well for all genres, bass is always controlled, treble is very smooth yet not dark, and it has a nice presentation of subtle details

 

I enjoy it with a lot of Progressive and Smyphonic Metal

post #3846 of 4644

Can someone compare the d2000 to the he-400, especially in sibilance? I'm dying to try the hifimans..

post #3847 of 4644
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Originally Posted by canuckavelli View Post
 

Can someone compare the d2000 to the he-400, especially in sibilance? I'm dying to try the hifimans..

THE HE 400 is much brighter and for me it was a little wonky with vocals, it didn't worth well for metal either. The bass how ever had very good speed but for me lacked slighty in impact this is ofc with a Stock HE 400

 

Now the D2k after like $300 of mods :/ has better bass impact, almost as much speed but a MUCH more balanced overall sound 

post #3848 of 4644
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

THE HE 400 is much brighter and for me it was a little wonky with vocals, it didn't worth well for metal either. The bass how ever had very good speed but for me lacked slighty in impact this is ofc with a Stock HE 400

 

Now the D2k after like $300 of mods :/ has better bass impact, almost as much speed but a MUCH more balanced overall sound 

 

Also, comfort is about 300 percent better with the Denons. The HE 400 felt really heavy on my head.

post #3849 of 4644
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post
 

 

Also, comfort is about 300 percent better with the Denons. The HE 400 felt really heavy on my head.

I had the LCD 2 this week end it was more comfy than my D2k was imo :/ 

post #3850 of 4644
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

I had the LCD 2 this week end it was more comfy than my D2k was imo :/ 

 

Well, HE-400 isn't the same as LCD 2. Haven't tried LCD myself yet.

 

I'm not sure how anything can be more comfortable than D2000 W/ Alpha Pads. The Alphas are so soft and plush, it's wonderful.


Edited by TWerk - 6/24/14 at 10:10pm
post #3851 of 4644
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

I found the D2k with Cocobolo Rose Wood Cups, the Lawton Pads and Lawton Driver mods the D2k works well for all genres, bass is always controlled, treble is very smooth yet not dark, and it has a nice presentation of subtle details

 

I enjoy it with a lot of Progressive and Smyphonic Metal

That's the best part of modding - you can tune sound as you wish. Idea of author of my mod was to get extremely powerful and perfectly controlled bass. Side effect of this – soundstage shrinking. So you can get great punch on Thrash and Black, but Progressive and Symphometal suffer from soudstage size…

post #3852 of 4644

Yeah modding is great. They produced the headphones to sound good, but with a little $ and some patience they can be great.

post #3853 of 4644

Have any of you guys installed HM5 Brainwavz pads on the D2k, just now I had a pair lying around and they are just held by force between my noggin and the drivers...I ordered the new memory foam HM5 ones, but wonder if the original HM5 pad can indeed go on the white plastic clip that locks on the driver side ! I like them better than the original pads, more "breathing space" and the new memory foam ones look taller than Fostex TH-900 earpads (Thanks for the tip Oregonian).


Edited by Lohb - 6/25/14 at 1:54am
post #3854 of 4644

Oh wow I hadn't even thought to try that. Maybe I'll take my pair off my M50 and give it a listen.

post #3855 of 4644

DT-770 vs D2k ? Any you guys owned both ?

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