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Where is this on sale?

LINK

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Has anybody tried these wooden caps? The price is quite moderate, though not sure about the inner side as there are no pics :confused: 

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Has anybody tried these wooden caps? The price is quite moderate, though not sure about the inner side as there are no pics :confused: 

Hello !

 

he's the same guy I bought mine from him few days ago... waiting for it...

 

but you must read VERY CAREFULLY the announce : 

 

 

PAY ATTENTION PLEASE: The starting price is very low because the cups had a very slight deformation after fabrication. The cups appear very very slightly elliptical (between the two axes there is one mm of difference). The coupling with the circumference of the metal is not so perfect, as you can see from the photos. It 's almost imperceptible but this is a defect that not influence the sonic performance of the headphone. Then sold as is, with no possibility of return.
 
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thanks for pointing! I usually do not read everything especially in the bottom part :]

please let us know your impressions once receive the caps.

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thanks for pointing! I usually do not read everything especially in the bottom part :]
please let us know your impressions once receive the caps.

You re welcome !
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thanks for pointing! I usually do not read everything especially in the bottom part :]
please let us know your impressions once receive the caps.

Hé just wrote me hé sent them to me this day : get them n'est week now...!
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I just put the stock pads back on my D2000, and I have to say, I like the sound with the stockers better than the Alphas. The sub bass and impact aren't as good as with the Alphas, but I have some of my mids back now. I'm keeping the Alphas on the shelf for now to try on future headphones.

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It could be mainly the pad thickness that alters the distance from the cups to ears.

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Yeah, in that extra inch or so, my mids are lost and nowhere to be found. I want them back. Now.

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Congrats on your Alpha pads adventure - good work. 

 

Damping is done with Dynamat lining the cup edges and bottom to tighten up the bass.  It is well worth doing in my opinion.  I've tried two Denon's before and after damping and I'd never go without it again. 

 

Martin Custom does them for around $200 for standard depth and does a beautiful job.  Mine are extra deep but you get the picture.

 

thanks! actually, since writing this post ive read more about the Dx000 series and discovered that the d2k and the d5k have the same driver, and differ mostly (though not entirely) in build quality, which makes me want to get wooden cups even more. apparently, the d2k is already dampened, did you dampen yours further or did you replace the cups to begin with? what does having extra deep cups achieve? im beginning to imagine a dampened extra deep wooden cup in my future... or atleast, once i can afford such things... 

 

and another question, illustrated by an edited version of your picture:

 

the metal arms that connect the headband to the swivel bit, theyre loose and often open by themselves. its not drastic, but its definitely annoying and i dont want it to get worse. any suggestions on how to tighten them up? also, is there any way of increasing the headband pressure? the grip is only just strong enough now that ive installed the alpha pads, im wondering if anyone has tried bending the headband for a better grip, like one does with the m-100?

 

thats one beautiful set of headphones youve got there mate!

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thanks! actually, since writing this post ive read more about the Dx000 series and discovered that the d2k and the d5k have the same driver, and differ mostly (though not entirely) in build quality, which makes me want to get wooden cups even more. apparently, the d2k is already dampened, did you dampen yours further or did you replace the cups to begin with? what does having extra deep cups achieve? im beginning to imagine a dampened extra deep wooden cup in my future... or atleast, once i can afford such things... 

 

and another question, illustrated by an edited version of your picture:

 

the metal arms that connect the headband to the swivel bit, theyre loose and often open by themselves. its not drastic, but its definitely annoying and i dont want it to get worse. any suggestions on how to tighten them up? also, is there any way of increasing the headband pressure? the grip is only just strong enough now that ive installed the alpha pads, im wondering if anyone has tried bending the headband for a better grip, like one does with the m-100?

 

thats one beautiful set of headphones youve got there mate!


First, thanks for the compliment - all I did was pay Martin to create the beauty the Cocobolo cups turned out to be.  He's an artist with wood.

 

My stock D2000 had everything Lawton dampened and it sounded great.  I had the extra deep cups made mainly because Martin had enough Cocobolo to do it so on an impulse I said yes.  Honestly without damping they go very deep but are a bit hollow and boomy.  When I first got them I liked the sound (new toy syndrome?) and after going back and forth with the D7000 and TH900 realized the bass tightness was lacking so got some Dynamat from a good friend and did the deed to the wood cups.  Huge improvement.  No lie.  I'll forever recommend Lawton damping.  They look sharp but needed the damping for all that bass bouncing around inside the cups.  I'm actually going to play with putting some hollo-fill in there as well to see if I can get the sound to match the D7000 bass.  Currently it's real good but I want better - can't help myself from tinkering. 

 

Metal adjustment arms coming down - normal with use on Denon's after a few years unfortunately.  Has to be a way to do it but I have found no reliable way to stop it from happening.  As you said the Alpha pads help with clamp and I would guess if you had the phone apart (cups off) you could try to bend it a bit to try to get the clamp tighter.  I've never tried as my D2000 is fine as is with Alpha pads. 

 

Let us know if you try the headband clamp tightener. 

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Originally Posted by adamlr View Post

 

the metal arms that connect the headband to the swivel bit, theyre loose and often open by themselves. its not drastic, but its definitely annoying and i dont want it to get worse. any suggestions on how to tighten them up? 

There's really no way to make that happen less. There are little bearing things on the inside of that part that allow the headband to move that cannot be adjusted in any way.

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First, thanks for the compliment - all I did was pay Martin to create the beauty the Cocobolo cups turned out to be.  He's an artist with wood.

 

My stock D2000 had everything Lawton dampened and it sounded great.  I had the extra deep cups made mainly because Martin had enough Cocobolo to do it so on an impulse I said yes.  Honestly without damping they go very deep but are a bit hollow and boomy.  When I first got them I liked the sound (new toy syndrome?) and after going back and forth with the D7000 and TH900 realized the bass tightness was lacking so got some Dynamat from a good friend and did the deed to the wood cups.  Huge improvement.  No lie.  I'll forever recommend Lawton damping.  They look sharp but needed the damping for all that bass bouncing around inside the cups.  I'm actually going to play with putting some hollo-fill in there as well to see if I can get the sound to match the D7000 bass.  Currently it's real good but I want better - can't help myself from tinkering. 

 

Metal adjustment arms coming down - normal with use on Denon's after a few years unfortunately.  Has to be a way to do it but I have found no reliable way to stop it from happening.  As you said the Alpha pads help with clamp and I would guess if you had the phone apart (cups off) you could try to bend it a bit to try to get the clamp tighter.  I've never tried as my D2000 is fine as is with Alpha pads. 

 

Let us know if you try the headband clamp tightener. 


i doubt ill just try it without hearing of a precedent... the fact that these things are discontinued just makes me paranoid. 

now, granted, i got these with the full intention of tinkering with them, but i want to tinker myself. mostly because its cost effective, but also because of the hobby side of things. im a poor soon to be student, and im going to move to an even more expensive city in order to be closer to the "sound industry" which i hope to become a part of. in other words - i have to pinch every penny. i think ill shop around for wooden cups and some dynamat, if i can find extra deep ones for a good price then ill go for it, but this is probably going to be a very long process...

 

thanks for all the help =]

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Originally Posted by cCasper TFG View Post
 

There's really no way to make that happen less. There are little bearing things on the inside of that part that allow the headband to move that cannot be adjusted in any way.


oh well... cheers :beerchug:

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