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post #2881 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

Heard back from Mark Lawton, after asking specifically where and how the wood cups get damped.............and I got a sales pitch for buying new cups.

Earlier I said the cost differential vs Martin was only $30......well, what Mark said in his email is their new line of Exhibition Grade Bubinga Cups are available pre-order for $369......and after launch the cost goes up to $429. Yes, you read that right. Said he didn't know if/when he'd have the Luthier Tonewoods available again so the $289 price on the website may never be a reality again.

So an economical cup upgrade is limited to Martin Custom, which is fine since his work is excellent. I was just surprised to see the price jump so far with Lawton. Mark revolutionized Denon modding and I have first hand experience with his product on two headphones. I respect his work and know its first rate.

 

Mark's cups are deeper, aren't they? And aren't Martin's cups closer to stock size? Maybe that's the reason for the price difference.

post #2882 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

Heard back from Mark Lawton, after asking specifically where and how the wood cups get damped.............and I got a sales pitch for buying new cups.

Earlier I said the cost differential vs Martin was only $30......well, what Mark said in his email is their new line of Exhibition Grade Bubinga Cups are available pre-order for $369......and after launch the cost goes up to $429. Yes, you read that right. Said he didn't know if/when he'd have the Luthier Tonewoods available again so the $289 price on the website may never be a reality again.

So an economical cup upgrade is limited to Martin Custom, which is fine since his work is excellent. I was just surprised to see the price jump so far with Lawton. Mark revolutionized Denon modding and I have first hand experience with his product on two headphones. I respect his work and know its first rate.

HMOG Exibition grade  what could be that different extra coat of varnish its the same wood as the ones i have .Wow.

post #2883 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post

Mark's cups are deeper, aren't they? And aren't Martin's cups closer to stock size? Maybe that's the reason for the price difference.

Nope. My D2000 cups are very deep, much deeper over stock.

I honestly don't know how much better you can do a finish after looking at both my Martin modded cup headphones. To be that much more.........wow.
post #2884 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post


Nope. My D2000 cups are very deep, much deeper over stock.

I honestly don't know how much better you can do a finish after looking at both my Martin modded cup headphones. To be that much more.........wow.

 

Oh yeah, after looking at his the coco d2k's, they seem to be much deeper than they used to be (check the Denon section of his site to see the much thinner cups).

 

I can't see what the extra cost would be, then. Martin's work is absolutely gorgeous. I have to say, I'm kind of interested in getting a set now. How long did Martin take, and what kind of differences did you notice with the new cups?

 

EDIT: I wish Martin still did custom Denon headbands.


Edited by Taowolf51 - 11/6/13 at 7:03pm
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Lawton  VS stock

post #2886 of 4946
It takes Martin about a month to 6 weeks from receipt of your headphone till you get it back. He needs your phones to fit the cups, and comparing his fitting to my stock D7000, they are considerably tighter against the frame.

What I noticed besides wanting to look at them a lot.........deeper, tighter bass. I had a Darth Beyer before with like 1.5" deep cups and it was not tight. Very boomy so this is clearly an improvement over that (and keep in mind those are Beyer DT770's and I feel the Denon's are a better starting point).


Stock and Martin

post #2887 of 4946

Is there any reduction in bass quantity? With the amount of dynamat in my cans I don't really want to lose anymore quantity (though I guess I could just remove some dynamat).

post #2888 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Taowolf51 View Post

Is there any reduction in bass quantity? With the amount of dynamat in my cans I don't really want to lose anymore quantity (though I guess I could just remove some dynamat).

No less, if anything more. Now, these D2000 cups have no damping in them, only on the drivers. I'm going to consider that after a while. No real need tho but I can't help myself from tinkering.
post #2889 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

 I respect his work and know its first rate.

 

As do I - and photos of both of their work is amazing. 

 

Sadly, for me, (as I can imagine this is the case for many)  the cost/benefit ratio just doesn't work. 

 

They look soooo good though!

post #2890 of 4946

http://www.head-fi.org/t/642063/fs-ft-denon-d2000-lantinen-cocobolo-cups-d7000-cable-liton-usa-3-5mm-plug

 

Guess who's the new owner of these babies :3 Cost me about $550 q.q, but iJimmy is having a little work done to them before they head to me. I'm actually going to see if Martin will work that D7k Cable into a balanced set up, 4pin XLR retermination 

 

Either way, I assume it's going to be december before I see the Headphone. Asuming the repairs and retermination I'm looking at getting. THEN going to grab some Alpha Pads and call it a day! 

 

Any one have a good guide to replaceing the pads >.> seems a little harder than the HE 400 and W1000x pad swaps 

post #2891 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

 

Any one have a good guide to replaceing the pads >.> seems a little harder than the HE 400 and W1000x pad swaps

The Alpha pads can stretch extremely far, just work them around. The Alpha pads sound great on the D*k's, but my favorite pads for my D7/5k's were the Beyer clear gels, but they are all but extinct.....

here they are on the 5ks.

post #2892 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

The Alpha pads can stretch extremely far, just work them around. The Alpha pads sound great on the D*k's, but my favorite pads for my D7/5k's were the Beyer clear gels, but they are all but extinct.....

here they are on the 5ks.

Yea I hear the Alphas have to Stretch on there nice and tightly.

 

And honestly I'm happy to be rid of my J$money Pads... they where well ugly the build wasn't bad but I think Alphas are just built much better imo 

post #2893 of 4946
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Guess who's the new owner of these babies

 

FINALLY! Welcome! Enjoy! You'll be so happy. I'm excited for you..

 

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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

The Alpha pads can stretch extremely far, just work them around. The Alpha pads sound great on the D*k's, but my favorite pads for my D7/5k's were the Beyer clear gels, but they are all but extinct.....

here they are on the 5ks.

 

...Woah.

post #2894 of 4946
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

 

FINALLY! Welcome! Enjoy! You'll be so happy. I'm excited for you..

 

 

...Woah.

Yea I'm super stocked! The Cocobolo looks super sexy! And I SO need anotehr closed back! AND AND AND BEST OF ALL. I'm hoping Martin can use the D7k Stock Cable and impliment a balanced terminaton for it...

 

I would think naturally all headphones are "balanced"having R + R- and L+ and L - leads for the driver, as you need + and _ terminals to get the current through the headphone, meaning with a 4pin XLR you should be able to just wire each line well speratly! Ethier way, if he can't fully balanced the D2k with the D7k stock cable I am still going to reterminate it for 4pin XLR. THAT way I can buy a RSA F35 and still have a CLosed headphone to use with my F35 while my w1000x is fully balanced!

 

So I'm super stocked to have another closed back in the house :D, So I'm hoping though $50 will cover the Retermination and if Martin can, I asked him to do a Lawton Dampen to the Drivers only... really hoping he can do both the Retermination and Driver Dampen for about $50 >.> 

post #2895 of 4946

That wood looks beautiful. 

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