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I have heard nice things about SIlver Recables with these. Does Lawton AUdio offer anything other than Just copper?

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

I have heard nice things about SIlver Recables with these. Does Lawton AUdio offer anything other than Just copper?

I would not do a silver recable, silver tends to add a bit of bright , the D*K's do not need that.

post #2868 of 3954
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I would not do a silver recable, silver tends to add a bit of bright , the D*K's do not need that.

I found the Copper SIlver Hybrid I used on the HE 400. retaied a nice treble presance but smoothed the treble out some

 

I would prefer a hybrid cable 

post #2869 of 3954
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Thanks, Orgeion you think they'd sound better with dapmened Drivers and un dampend Wood Back Cups? While we are on the subject 


Mark Lawton does it that way now I'm almost 100% sure.  No damping on the wood.  Think that's how he did my D7000 and the sound is amazing compared to stock.  Went from good to great. 

 

Now that you bring it up, I'm going to ask him and clarify and will post up the answer. 

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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

 

Sorry, to quote this again, but how much did it cost? Also, how long did it take?

 

And lastly, does the weight have much of an impact? Comfort is great on my D5k, I would hate to sacrifice it.


$250 for the cups and fitting to your headphone.  Worth it, as Lawton is quite a bit more $ and doesn't fit to your headphone.   Only issue is it takes a good month from when you send him your headphones till you get yours back.  The man is an artist and has a day job............................lol. 

 

Weight increase is negligible.  I have a neck problem that requires me to be careful about which headphones I use and neither the D2000 or my D5000 cause me problems.  The D5000 is just slightly deeper than stock and the D2000 is a good 1/2" deeper than stock. 

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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 


$250 for the cups and fitting to your headphone.  Worth it, as Lawton is quite a bit more $ and doesn't fit to your headphone.   Only issue is it takes a good month from when you send him your headphones till you get yours back.  The man is an artist and has a day job............................lol. 

 

Weight increase is negligible.  I have a neck problem that requires me to be careful about which headphones I use and neither the D2000 or my D5000 cause me problems.  The D5000 is just slightly deeper than stock and the D2000 is a good 1/2" deeper than stock. 

Who did your Headphone upgrade? The fellow who does the Darth Beyer upgrades...

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Who did your Headphone upgrade? The fellow who does the Darth Beyer upgrades...

No, Martin Custom Audio - www.martincustomaudio.com - Martin Lantinen is the gent's name.

 

And I misspoke earlier when I said Lawton was "much more expensive" than Martin.  Current pricing is only $30 more.  I was quoted higher about a year ago but his website shows $289 per pair now though I don't believe that includes the installation and fitting. 

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No, Martin Custom Audio - www.martincustomaudio.com - Martin Lantinen is the gent's name.

 

And I misspoke earlier when I said Lawton was "much more expensive" than Martin.  Current pricing is only $30 more.  I was quoted higher about a year ago but his website shows $289 per pair now though I don't believe that includes the installation and fitting. 

It's no and I've heard of Martin Custom Audio. He does wooden back for a number of products! He ought to ditch that day job ;3 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
either way the pictures are very wonderful! I'm not sure Lawton Offers [although I'm sure upon request it would not be an issue] the installation of only a Wooden back. Although the D2k I'm getting has a D7k Woodback that was apparently installed and dampened by Mrkl... let me ask you guys this. $440 a good price for a D2k with a Modded D7k Back... also note that said back has 2 physical impact knicks. One with a lack of Varnish. The other with a serious impact on the wood itself... part of getting a wooden back is the look. My W1000x has no such damage to it... thinking about just getting a stock D2k for about $275 and then getting the Custom Work done to it my self. That way I get a new Wood back without any worries of the damage.... I guess another option is does Martin Custom offer a refinishing service? I know a fellow who does some VERY nice Guitar Body Repair work, and he strips the wooden bodies and refinishes them... for about $100 [he's an older retired guy] wondering if Martin would offer the same serivce for a pre existing wooden back... that damage... I might PM my  buyer with a serious counter offer... as looking at prices. $440 for D2k +Damged D7k+Mod, compared to a D2k at about $275 +$250 for a new Wood back... 

I suppose it's a good deal. Saving about $100... but that damage... just really bothers me... it has no audible affect of course but... looks are a big reason why I'd like wooden backs...

 

Still this D2k +D7k Modded Wood back is costing me my HE 400 [I paid $300 for] and about $165 so total cost to me of about $465 include shipping of like $26 and that's $481... wish I knew what a D7k Stock Wooden back costs +the modding... I ought to message Markl and ask him. 


Edited by Mshenay - 11/6/13 at 9:32am
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

It's no and I've heard of Martin Custom Audio. He does wooden back for a number of products! He ought to ditch that day job ;3 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
either way the pictures are very wonderful! I'm not sure Lawton Offers [although I'm sure upon request it would not be an issue] the installation of only a Wooden back. Although the D2k I'm getting has a D7k Woodback that was apparently installed and dampened by Mrkl... let me ask you guys this. $440 a good price for a D2k with a Modded D7k Back... also note that said back has 2 physical impact knicks. One with a lack of Varnish. The other with a serious impact on the wood itself... part of getting a wooden back is the look. My W1000x has no such damage to it... thinking about just getting a stock D2k for about $275 and then getting the Custom Work done to it my self. That way I get a new Wood back without any worries of the damage.... I guess another option is does Martin Custom offer a refinishing service? I know a fellow who does some VERY nice Guitar Body Repair work, and he strips the wooden bodies and refinishes them... for about $100 [he's an older retired guy] wondering if Martin would offer the same serivce for a pre existing wooden back... that damage... I might PM my  buyer with a serious counter offer... as looking at prices. $440 for D2k +Damged D7k+Mod, compared to a D2k at about $275 +$250 for a new Wood back... 

I suppose it's a good deal. Saving about $100... but that damage... just really bothers me... it has no audible affect of course but... looks are a big reason why I'd like wooden backs...

 

Still this D2k +D7k Modded Wood back is costing me my HE 400 [I paid $300 for] and about $165 so total cost to me of about $465 include shipping of like $26 and that's $481... wish I knew what a D7k Stock Wooden back costs +the modding... I ought to message Markl and ask him. 


Yeah, that's a tough call.  Plus if you go custom cup the timeline is probably Christmas or later I'd guess from my experience with Martin.  Depends if you mind waiting.  I was cool with it because I had a D7000 and D5000 to amuse me. 

 

There is one other D2000 with custom cups available - his price was $500 but he's been trying to sell for almost a year.  Located in Denmark I think so that's a delay but the cups are Cocobolo (just like my D2000) and made by Martin as well.  Want me to PM you the guy's info?  Not sure if he's updated the ad in a while but he and I were close to a deal for awhile but it fell through. 


Edited by Oregonian - 11/6/13 at 5:28pm
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Yeah, that's a tough call.  Plus if you go custom cup the timeline is probably Christmas or later I'd guess from my experience with Martin.  Depends if you mind waiting.  I was cool with it because I had a D7000 and D5000 to amust me. 

 

There is one other D2000 with custom cups available - his price was $500 but he's been trying to sell for almost a year.  Located in Denmark I think so that's a delay but the cups are Cocobolo (just like my D2000) and made by Martin as well.  Want me to PM you the guy's info?  Not sure if he's updated the ad in a while but he and I were close to a deal for awhile but it fell through. 

Yea I've sent him a few pms as well... I have an HE 400 which is something he's interested in actually! Hoping he accepts! As he's got his Recable re Shelled :O and $500 that's almost perfect for me >.> Feel free to shoot him a pm as well on my behalf! 

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So I did ask Mark L about the damping and wood cup question.  He said he DOES add damping to the cups as well.  I just don't know how much or where, which I asked him and will post the response when he answers me back.

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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post
 

So I did ask Mark L about the damping and wood cup question.  He said he DOES add damping to the cups as well.  I just don't know how much or where, which I asked him and will post the response when he answers me back.

I might have just gotten that super Sweet D2k! Custom Wood Back and Recable :O For the same as my other buyer was asking >.> ofc it's in pristine condition as well!  All thanks to Oregonian! 

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

It's no and I've heard of Martin Custom Audio. He does wooden back for a number of products! He ought to ditch that day job ;3 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
either way the pictures are very wonderful! I'm not sure Lawton Offers [although I'm sure upon request it would not be an issue] the installation of only a Wooden back. Although the D2k I'm getting has a D7k Woodback that was apparently installed and dampened by Mrkl... let me ask you guys this. $440 a good price for a D2k with a Modded D7k Back... also note that said back has 2 physical impact knicks. One with a lack of Varnish. The other with a serious impact on the wood itself... part of getting a wooden back is the look. My W1000x has no such damage to it... thinking about just getting a stock D2k for about $275 and then getting the Custom Work done to it my self. That way I get a new Wood back without any worries of the damage.... I guess another option is does Martin Custom offer a refinishing service? I know a fellow who does some VERY nice Guitar Body Repair work, and he strips the wooden bodies and refinishes them... for about $100 [he's an older retired guy] wondering if Martin would offer the same serivce for a pre existing wooden back... that damage... I might PM my  buyer with a serious counter offer... as looking at prices. $440 for D2k +Damged D7k+Mod, compared to a D2k at about $275 +$250 for a new Wood back... 

I suppose it's a good deal. Saving about $100... but that damage... just really bothers me... it has no audible affect of course but... looks are a big reason why I'd like wooden backs...

 

Still this D2k +D7k Modded Wood back is costing me my HE 400 [I paid $300 for] and about $165 so total cost to me of about $465 include shipping of like $26 and that's $481... wish I knew what a D7k Stock Wooden back costs +the modding... I ought to message Markl and ask him. 

About 2 years ago i sent Lawton Audio my D-5000 for the mod ,the wood cups, and ear pads, came out to $535.00 + i shipped them over . but back then it took 5 1/2 months to get them back i was p.......d . All kinds of production  problems.but  the bass is tighter then before i like them but now  my Senns hd800 get the air time sometimes i get back to them because they still thump but when your use to Senns hard to go back.The cups are Waterfall Bubinga 


Edited by MIKELAP - 11/6/13 at 1:37pm
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^^ amazing.

 

And thanks for the info, Oregonian!

 

EDIT: That converts to.. Well, over $400 AUD, not including shipping. I would absolutely love to, but that's "new headphone" territory for me..

 

Or maybe a new EQ.. You get the picture. 

 

*sad sigh*


Edited by White Lotus - 11/6/13 at 2:59pm
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Heard back from Mark Lawton, after asking specifically where and how the wood cups get damped.............and I got a sales pitch for buying new cups.

Earlier I said the cost differential vs Martin was only $30......well, what Mark said in his email is their new line of Exhibition Grade Bubinga Cups are available pre-order for $369......and after launch the cost goes up to $429. Yes, you read that right. Said he didn't know if/when he'd have the Luthier Tonewoods available again so the $289 price on the website may never be a reality again.

So an economical cup upgrade is limited to Martin Custom, which is fine since his work is excellent. I was just surprised to see the price jump so far with Lawton. Mark revolutionized Denon modding and I have first hand experience with his product on two headphones. I respect his work and know its first rate.
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