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post #2791 of 4191
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Originally Posted by Lady Stoneheart View Post
 

Hi, I've got a question. Is the Denon D5000 any good for metal metal music? Does it have hard rocking factor? I'm looking at it second hand as an alternative to the Hifiman HE-400 because I'm worried about its comfort. 

 

Sorry if this is a dumb question. 

 

Thanks. 

for rock yea, metal i'd be very inclined to say no. the denons lack the speed to deliver the kind of quick drum kicks needed.

take this with a grain of salt as i don't do metal

post #2792 of 4191
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Originally Posted by Lady Stoneheart View Post
 

Hi, I've got a question. Is the Denon D5000 any good for metal metal music? Does it have hard rocking factor? I'm looking at it second hand as an alternative to the Hifiman HE-400 because I'm worried about its comfort. 

 

Sorry if this is a dumb question. 

 

Thanks. 

 

 

Not a dumb question, if you're thinking about spending that much for a can its a smart idea to make sure they'll work for you. To answer you question yes. They work very well with metal of all sorts. They have some of the deepest sub-bass you'll ever experience in a headphone but that doesn't mean that the depth makes them slow or sloppy. Double kick drums will be front and center and the highs have just a touch of sparkle to make the crashes sound exactly as they should but not enough to make you want to rip your ears out. 

 

That's the biggest difference I've been able to come up with between the D2k and D5k's. The D5k has slightly deeper bass but its a lot cleaner and has better treble and separation. 

 

If you want the best for every genre tho you could save up your money and just get the TH600's which are basically improved versions of the D5k with mids and soundstage unlike anything else I've ever heard. I think I'll be selling my LCD's for either the TH600 or TH900 very soon. 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

:evil: 

post #2793 of 4191
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Originally Posted by DemonFox View Post
 

 

 

They have some of the deepest sub-bass 

 

I love my D5k, but I'm not so sure that the sub-bass is much compared to it's overwhelming mid-bass. 




Edit: I am now officially un-trusting of this graph. Big fan of the headroom guys, but I'm noticing some VERY dramatic changes with the bass with different pads. It really feels as if the sub-bass and mid-bass levels have evened out - I can't tell if the mid-bass has dropped (due to extra distance) or if the sub-bass has increased (due to a better seal) but it's a definite balance improvement. I'm only in the first fifteen minutes of testing, but already, the Brainwavz HM5/Fischer FA003 pads are making a HUGE difference.

 

Also, they are super comfy, and to my eyes, look pretty good. I might just hold-off on pre-ordering those alpha pads.

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by White Lotus - 9/7/13 at 12:12am
post #2794 of 4191

I wanted to replace my Denon D2000 but why are they so god dawn more expensive nowadays ?

 

$100 to $250 more than they use to be :o

 

Do people really think that highly of them ? I loved mine but need new ones.

post #2795 of 4191
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Originally Posted by max2 View Post

I wanted to replace my Denon D2000 but why are they so god dawn more expensive nowadays ?

$100 to $250 more than they use to be redface.gif

Do people really think that highly of them ? I loved mine but need new ones.

Theyre discontinued, hence the price hike.
post #2796 of 4191
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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post


Theyre discontinued, hence the price hike.

Discontinued, highly regarded and the replacement models were/are a disappointment.

Struggling hard to think of any other headphone model which has that same kind of history. Most of the time it's expensive because it was the first do do something different for the industry or the brand.

post #2797 of 4191
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post

I love my D5k, but I'm not so sure that the sub-bass is much compared to it's overwhelming mid-bass. 




Edit: I am now officially un-trusting of this graph. Big fan of the headroom guys, but I'm noticing some VERY dramatic changes with the bass with different pads. It really feels as if the sub-bass and mid-bass levels have evened out - I can't tell if the mid-bass has dropped (due to extra distance) or if the sub-bass has increased (due to a better seal) but it's a definite balance improvement. I'm only in the first fifteen minutes of testing, but already, the Brainwavz HM5/Fischer FA003 pads are making a HUGE difference.

Also, they are super comfy, and to my eyes, look pretty good. I might just hold-off on pre-ordering those alpha pads.















How are the HM5 pads now? I'm tempted to do the same to my D2000. The HM5 pads are so cheap that one thinks twice about putting them on the now-rare D200/5000/7000. Maybe Brainwavz can do a lamb leather version.

But certainly the HM5 look like bargains compared to Alpha angled pads for $60 and J Lawton angled pads for $99
post #2798 of 4191
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Originally Posted by georgelai57 View Post


How are the HM5 pads now? I'm tempted to do the same to my D2000. The HM5 pads are so cheap that one thinks twice about putting them on the now-rare D200/5000/7000. Maybe Brainwavz can do a lamb leather version.

But certainly the HM5 look like bargains compared to Alpha angled pads for $60 and J Lawton angled pads for $99

 

I haven't tried the alpha pads, and I really want to. I hear SO many mixed reports on them. Some say the bass seal increases bass response, others say the distance from the drivers makes it weaker.

 

I prefer the HM5 pads infinitely over the stock ones. It's really breathed new life into my D5000. They feel great. 

And I mean really - the price of the pad is a benefit in my opinion. If you feel any better, I'll sell you my HM5 pads for five hundred dollars or something. (Joking)

But yeah, I do see the validity of your point. Good headphones, becoming more rare, they deserve the best of the best - I am just falling in love with the D5000/HM5 pad combo.

EDIT: Lambskin leather HM5 pads? I would be SO keen.


Also, just so everyone knowns, I emailed Lawton about getting some wood cups made, here is his response: 

 

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Cups tend to sell out in advance; we normally have a deposit program that lets people reserve their pair from next batch (usually quarterly).
Because I do not yet have date certain for arrival of next batch, reluctant to begin accepting deposits yet.
At the moment I may have only one pair in stock for D5K in Padauk.
We’re really looking for someone getting the full Level 3 upgrade with cable and the works for this pair.
I am waiting to hear back from someone else who is undecided.
Have you considered Level 3?
 
Otherwise, if you like I can send your e-mail an invoice for a deposit which is half of purchase price ($145).
This will reserve you top spot from next batch probably 3-4 months, you can buy just the cups.
Normally deposit not refundable, but if you want to leave it now you can have it back at any time until I have a date for you.
 
Let me know thanks.


His website lists "level three" as Lawton tuning, Lawton pads, re-cable and termination. I can't find pricing for level three, but the level two pricing is $499.


Edited by White Lotus - 9/8/13 at 8:26pm
post #2799 of 4191
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post

I haven't tried the alpha pads, and I really want to. I hear SO many mixed reports on them. Some say the bass seal increases bass response, others say the distance from the drivers makes it weaker.

I prefer the HM5 pads infinitely over the stock ones. It's really breathed new life into my D5000. They feel great. 


And I mean really - the price of the pad is a benefit in my opinion. If you feel any better, I'll sell you my HM5 pads for five hundred dollars or something. (Joking)


But yeah, I do see the validity of your point. Good headphones, becoming more rare, they deserve the best of the best - I am just falling in love with the D5000/HM5 pad combo.

EDIT: Lambskin leather HM5 pads? I would be SO keen.



Also, just so everyone knowns, I emailed Lawton about getting some wood cups made, here is his response: 



His website lists "level three" as Lawton tuning, Lawton pads, re-cable and termination. I can't find pricing for level three, but the level two pricing is $499.

My ears aren't that golden for the full Lawton works. I'd consider their ear pads if $60
post #2800 of 4191

I'd love to get some cups. 

post #2801 of 4191
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post

I haven't tried the alpha pads, and I really want to. I hear SO many mixed reports on them. Some say the bass seal increases bass response, others say the distance from the drivers makes it weaker.

I prefer the HM5 pads infinitely over the stock ones. It's really breathed new life into my D5000. They feel great. 


And I mean really - the price of the pad is a benefit in my opinion. If you feel any better, I'll sell you my HM5 pads for five hundred dollars or something. (Joking)


But yeah, I do see the validity of your point. Good headphones, becoming more rare, they deserve the best of the best - I am just falling in love with the D5000/HM5 pad combo.

EDIT: Lambskin leather HM5 pads? I would be SO keen.



Also, just so everyone knowns, I emailed Lawton about getting some wood cups made, here is his response: 



His website lists "level three" as Lawton tuning, Lawton pads, re-cable and termination. I can't find pricing for level three, but the level two pricing is $499.

Guys,

As much as I like giving Mark biz, I found a better solution to cup sourcing. Martin Custom Audio is making me a set of COCOBOLO rosewood cups for my D2000 for $250.......you send him your phones when the cups are ready and he fits them for you. I'm sending my Denon's today and will post pics after they are returned. Lawton is moving away from cups for the D2000 or so he told me. The Martin website will show some pics of his exquisite work.

Oh, and good job trying out the HM5 pads. May be a good alternative to Alphas or Lawton angles.
post #2802 of 4191

I've emailed Martin but he isn't writing back :(

I'll give it a few more days before making that claim. I'm pretty keen. Especially for $250...!!


Edited by White Lotus - 9/9/13 at 4:57am
post #2803 of 4191
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Originally Posted by White Lotus View Post
 

I've emailed Martin but he isn't writing back :(

I'll give it a few more days before making that claim. I'm pretty keen. Especially for $250...!!

He's been busy with his day job and just contacted me. 

post #2804 of 4191
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Originally Posted by Oregonian View Post

He's been busy with his day job and just contacted me. 

Martin said he has been in touch with someone from overseas. That you?

By the way, I acquired a D5000 today with Martins Bolivian Rosewood cups.........oh man is it gorgeous, as is the sound. Put a pair of J$ leather pads I got recently on it and just kicked up the bass tightness even more. Pics coming when I get to my computer.
post #2805 of 4191
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Originally Posted by kookoo View Post
 

Discontinued, highly regarded and the replacement models were/are a disappointment.

Struggling hard to think of any other headphone model which has that same kind of history. Most of the time it's expensive because it was the first do do something different for the industry or the brand.

 

My experience with AH-D600 (I own 2 pair) paints a different picture than "disappointment". I once owned a D2000 and currently still own a D5000. I found the D600 to be better than the 2000 and very close to the 5000. So, I sold the 2000 and with the money made was able to buy 2 pair of 600 that are getting used well. No complaints at all here.

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