Denon D2000/D5000, MD2000/MD5000 Appreciation Thread! - Page 173

Email says 4-8 days for just tuning and 3 weeks if I got the recabling, minus shipping time.

last year was about those delays on paper but i guess he got all sorts of production problems notably on the wood  cups and leather cups that he sent me after he had sent my headphones back and lately i inquired about wood cups and waiting time for those i wanted was 3 months got to be patient.

With the D5000 modding the price soars to that of an used LCD 2, T1, or other flagships. Are the Markl modded phones that good that they can compete directly with those listed?

Is that why the modded Denons are not doing so well in the second-hand market?
Edited by Bananaheadlin - 2/11/13 at 11:22pm

In terms of bass, the denons dare I say beat the LCDs. That would be the main aspect, but in other terms its mostly due to them being discontinued. And they are still great headphones. 

Would coming from a pair of Denon D5000's to a pair of LCD 2's be a huge step up in sound quality? I've never heard a pair of open headphones and honestly don't see the appeal of them. I prefer a more intimate & "boxed" soundstage - that's the whole point of using hadphones, otherwise you might as well buy a speaker system I figure.

The Denon D5000's are not fully sealed, they're more semi open and the LCD 2's are not renowned for they're soundstage often being described as intimate. As to sound quality it's more a question of signature; the Denons lighter & brighter, the LCD's darker.

Speaking of which, is there any recent headphone that is semi-open like D2k/D5k with a similar quality of sound? I really miss my D2ks but I'm not paying $400 for a used pair.

I've been told the Mr Speaker Mad Dogs is quite close to the Denon sound.

 

I owned and a/b compared D5000 to D7000, later the D7000 to HE500 and HE500 to LCD-2.  I slightly preferred D7000 to D5000, HE-500 were leagues better than D7000, LCD-2 edge out HE-500.  So, by memory, direct comparisons and the law of transitivity, I'd say that LCD-2 are much, much better than D5000 .  Bass of D5000 is a little more one-toned, but goes much deeper in LCD-2.  Planars' mids spank dynamics' imo and LCD-2 don't disappoint.  I think they're much better in their overall signature and refinement.

Cool. How does the bass impact compare between the D5000's and LCD 2's? Are the Lcd 2's better than the HE 6?

They are closer to LCD-2, more so with new Alpha Pads, with Dog Pads MD were quite darker, now timbre wise they sound almost like brothers from the same mother, FQ response also looks pretty close.

http://noblehifi.blogspot.com/2013/02/old-dog-new-pads-review.html

 

Denons are more V-shaped vs. ruler flat response of orthos.

Edited by Andrew_WOT - 2/12/13 at 4:52pm

Sorry I meant to add with Stax pads.

Wow, those measurements are really impressive. Can't wait to try them out at a meet this weekend and compare them to the paradox and LCD's!

 

Let's not forget the HE-400's now...

Quick question are the ear pads hard to remove? I followed Markl's way and slid my hands under the earpads and twisted it counter-clockwise, but still couldn't get it to come out. On the web it said it should've relatively easy.

 

Secondly, are the ear pads suppose to rotate freely? I can rotated mine 360 degrees with ease.

I also had a lot of trouble removing the pads on mine.  I watched a few youtube videos showing them twisting off rather easily....

 

Hours later with no luck....I pulled the pad off around the white plastic piece they are mounted on.  Then used a screwdriver to unlatch the circular white plastic piece.  After that it was easy enough to mount the new pads on and re-attached by twisting them back into place.  That took all of 5-10 minutes.  I don't know why, but mine wouldn't twist off normally the first time, they were latched in very tightly.