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post #61 of 71
8/6/08 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by jude View Post
I just browsed the forums to look for threads in which Sponsors' products are being criticized or even bashed--there are plenty, easy to find, at any given time. Look at the list of Sponsors in the side column, and tell me that you don't see threads and posts criticizing or bashing products by pretty much all of them around here.
Plenty have been removed too, indeed, the very fact that a lot of people who hold opinions which may not be favourable to certain sponsors or MOT's "products", when posting a new topic, or indeed just in reply to a thread, preface their post with a long and rambling apology for even having an opinion and feel they have to post in such a deferential and unassuming manner, points to a certain atmosphere of hostility towards these opinions, at least, that's the perception.

I've just read a post by a respected and established member who remains rational, objective and coherent in his posts which deal with potentially contentious issues who goes onto say himself on a thread which could attract the attentions of the head-fi stazi, that the community should have the courage to face head on that certain unfavourable or unpopular viewpoints should be acknowledged and given the respect they deserve for the site to retain credibility.


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As for the "dark underbelly" bit about Sponsor Forums and Sponsored Threads,
I was not talking about the sponsored sections of the site, it is implicit what you are getting when you enter a section of the site for sponsored members and MOT's.

I wont comment any further on this, but there is obviously a wide spectrum of opinion based on individual perceptions regarding this subject as can be evidenced by the comments in this thread.
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post #62 of 71
8/6/08 at 3:34pm
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Originally Posted by jude
I just browsed the forums to look for threads in which Sponsors' products are being criticized or even bashed--there are plenty, easy to find, at any given time. Look at the list of Sponsors in the side column, and tell me that you don't see threads and posts criticizing or bashing products by pretty much all of them around here.
There was a thread in the Amp section about Ray Samuels products that disappeared an hour ago. I thought the discussion was quite honest and don't understand why it was pulled off.
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post #63 of 71
8/6/08 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by gp_hebert View Post
There was a thread in the Amp section about Ray Samuels products that disappeared an hour ago. I thought the discussion was quite honest and don't understand why it was pulled off.
I too am confused about this thread -- as a potential buyer of an RSA product and as a past owner of several of them, I thought Covenant's thread was timely and judicious. I'm puzzled as to why it got pulled, especially the various posts seemed to be pursuing a genuine and informative dialogue.

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post #64 of 71
8/6/08 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by orkney View Post
I too am confused about this thread -- as a potential buyer of an RSA product and as a past owner of several of them, I thought Covenant's thread was timely and judicious. I'm puzzled as to why it got pulled, especially the various posts seemed to be pursuing a genuine and informative dialogue.

o
Yeah, i didnt get it at all but that makes MarchingMule's prophecy at the beginning of that topic all more haunting.
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post #65 of 71
8/6/08 at 4:03pm
I too would like to understand why that thread was removed - it seemed perfectly reasonable as a thread, even if the OP had something of a "grudge" (which he may or may not have).
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post #66 of 71
8/6/08 at 4:44pm
x 2. I read the first posts of the thread and could find no mud-throwing. There were criticism but it was substantiated by example. This kind of moderation rather throws back on the credibility of the information on Head-Fi and moderators motives. Fanboyism should thrive.
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post #67 of 71
8/6/08 at 4:47pm
It's back
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post #68 of 71
8/6/08 at 4:51pm
Perhaps the moderators and admins simply wanted a bit of time to review the thread and discuss its merits while not having to keep up with new posts? I would suggest that simply locking the thread would have been an easier way to do that but there are several reasonble and plausible explanations for why the thread was temporarily taken down. Friendly discussion or not its topic is irrefutably flammable.
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post #69 of 71
8/6/08 at 4:54pm
Good, it might have been a technical problem of something. In that case, disregard my post above.
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post #70 of 71
8/6/08 at 5:30pm
I was actually on the phone with another Head-Fi'er for the last two hours or so. I noticed, while I was on the phone, that the thread was moved to a Moderator forum, then it was put back in the Main Forums right about the time I was off the phone, with a couple of posts removed (referencing an unrelated headphone amp manufacturer).

I didn't move it, and I didn't put it back, but I do understand why the posts that were removed during its deletion were removed.

As for that style of moderating, I've done it before myself. I've also done what n_maher suggests, which is to lock the thread and prune as needed. I think it's a relevant thread, but I do understand and support the pruning that took place.
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post #71 of 71
8/7/08 at 12:14am
While it is a lost that Asr decided not to post again (as he stated on that other thread), I can understand why the thread was moderated as I was reading it right before it was moved. The last few posts have become nothing more than personal attack and full of fanboyism vs. anti-fanboyism. Perhaps if Asr had a chance to read those last few (disappeared) posts his decision might have not been so strong. While the style of moderation might be a bit controversial, I personally think those posts should be removed, one way or another. Thats' just my own experience as moderator on other forums.

People often has no idea how difficult the job of a mod can be, how much senseless blame and how little appreciation they received - for that, I just want to say 'thank you' to the whole mod team.
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