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post #196 of 390
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Originally Posted by monsieurguzel View Post
Also, what volume do you play the music from the Zune? Should i max it at 20 or play back at 10-15 volume?
I recall reading somewhere on here you should run at max volume into your amp...I don't remember why?? Maybe someone can enlighten us. I really couldn't tell when trying to compare myself, trying to level match was a little tricky. I thought the max output (20) was a weeee better (maybe slightly better resolution and better dynamics...then I wasn't sure...then I was...then I wasn't...lol.
post #197 of 390
Yeah, my only concern with maxing out the volume from the zune was wether or not the sound would get distorted or blown out at highest volume level. I am really curious about some more insight into this topic. I find it to be important subject since there is no LOD for zune.
post #198 of 390
Based on my experience with D2 (no lineout either) and multiple posts/threads i went through in ABi and iAudiophile, it's better to max the volume when feeding it to amp. The reason behind this is to get the cleanest sound possible without noise.

Dont afraid of clipping as it wont happen
post #199 of 390
Oy, I'm a little peeved at my Zune right now. It seems that there is an issue with WMA Lossless playback, at least with the 3.0 firmware. It seems to skip at various points in my music, sometimes highly audible and sometimes only slightly audible. It appears that I can repeat the skip at the same part(s) of the song(s) every time. The files played on my computer or my other MP3 player that supports WMA Lossless do not exhibit this behavior. It's not a huge factor, but I expect it to play my lossless files flawlessly if Microsoft endorses this codec.

Apparently, someone at the Zune forums said that this issue started occurring after the 3.0 firmware upgrade (and it was nonexistent with 2.5). I have never tried it with the 2.5 firmware, so I wouldn't know for myself, but I hope Microsoft is working on fixing it as it is somewhat of a deal breaker for me.
post #200 of 390
They are working on fixing this pretty good set of bugs.
post #201 of 390
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post
Oy, I'm a little peeved at my Zune right now. It seems that there is an issue with WMA Lossless playback, at least with the 3.0 firmware. It seems to skip at various points in my music, sometimes highly audible and sometimes only slightly audible. It appears that I can repeat the skip at the same part(s) of the song(s) every time. The files played on my computer or my other MP3 player that supports WMA Lossless do not exhibit this behavior. It's not a huge factor, but I expect it to play my lossless files flawlessly if Microsoft endorses this codec.

Apparently, someone at the Zune forums said that this issue started occurring after the 3.0 firmware upgrade (and it was nonexistent with 2.5). I have never tried it with the 2.5 firmware, so I wouldn't know for myself, but I hope Microsoft is working on fixing it as it is somewhat of a deal breaker for me.
I have about 135 lossless CDs on my Zune 120 that I went back & forth looking for skips, I couldn't(Thank God) find any problems. I don't use the Zune software to rip my CDs though, I rip them to a folder using WMP11 & I tell the Zune software to monitor this folder for new rips. I then have my Zune automatically sync to these rips that are placed in my Zune library when ever I hook up my player to my PC. I've never used the rip function in the Zune software, & I also upgraded to the 3.0 firmware,so your post had me wondering if this could be a workaround for the problem. Hope this helped.
post #202 of 390
I set my zune to shuffle all tracks, put it on hold, then it stops playing. Another little bug this sucker has. The type of files I use are exclusively mp3.
post #203 of 390
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Originally Posted by Podtweaker View Post
I have about 135 lossless CDs on my Zune 120 that I went back & forth looking for skips, I couldn't(Thank God) find any problems. I don't use the Zune software to rip my CDs though, I rip them to a folder using WMP11 & I tell the Zune software to monitor this folder for new rips. I then have my Zune automatically sync to these rips that are placed in my Zune library when ever I hook up my player to my PC. I've never used the rip function in the Zune software, & I also upgraded to the 3.0 firmware,so your post had me wondering if this could be a workaround for the problem. Hope this helped.
Interesting. The way I was doing it was actually converting to WMA Lossless from my existing FLAC archive using foobar2000. I'll try ripping them from CD to WMA Lossless and will see if it makes a difference.

Just as a note, I do not think it happens in every song that I have, and also if it does happen, it usually only happens 1 or 2 times per song.

EDIT: Just found another person having the same issue I think.

EDIT #2: Just ripped a song to WMA Lossless directly from CD using Windows Media Player and it exhibits this behavior still. Podtweaker, check your inbox.
post #204 of 390
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post
Interesting. The way I was doing it was actually converting to WMA Lossless from my existing FLAC archive using foobar2000. I'll try ripping them from CD to WMA Lossless and will see if it makes a difference.

Just as a note, I do not think it happens in every song that I have, and also if it does happen, it usually only happens 1 or 2 times per song.

EDIT: Just found another person having the same issue I think.

EDIT #2: Just ripped a song to WMA Lossless directly from CD using Windows Media Player and it exhibits this behavior still. Podtweaker, check your inbox.
Peter, I got in late from work last night (2am) but I gave your wma test a listen, I noticed a momentary "audio dropout" about 3/4 of the way through the song & another slight boble that may have been another one or just a change in the song(not familiar w/ the song). You're saying these dropouts occur on numerous songs? Do the Cds you are ripping these songs from display scuffs(Actually they don't even have to be visible if the CD came from a late stamper). Most of the time slight imperfections aren't audible occasionally they will cause a dropout. If they do display some wear I would suggest that you try a product called "Plexus Spray Plastic Cleaner & Polish" just about any motorcycle shop or boating supply store should have it. Spray a light mist on a microfiber cloth & buff the CDs w/ the cloth in staight lines from the center to edge of the CD while rotating it on your finger. I know it doesn't sound like it should work but for some reason it does. Plexus is unbelieveablely effective. I've used it on brand new HD-DVDs that had occasional dropouts, compelely cured them. It's an unusual suggestion I realize but there are at least a couple hundred other things you can use this spray for and it's pretty inexpensive. I'll try to brainstorm some more expensive more traditional possible fixes , but for now my pillow is calling me. It sounds wacky , but if wacky works that's ok, right? Another quick thought how much use has the drive you use for ripping had?
post #205 of 390
I recently returned a 120GB Zune due to it coloring the sound through my Alpine H/U. It didn't matter where the volume was positioned. The only reason I even purchased it was to mass load my library so I wouldn't have to use and scratch cd's anymore. It's ironic because I hear a lot of good things about the sound quality of the Zune vs. other MP3 players
post #206 of 390
The CD is actually quite new, in pristine condition and I only have ripped from it twice and that's all it's been used for.

I am doubtful that it is an issue with the file itself because if you play it on your computer those skips are nonexistent. If I play it on my Insignia NS-DV4G (which also happens to support WMA Lossless) the skips are nonexistent as well.

And yes, it happens with a lot of my music.
post #207 of 390
You know, I hadn't thought to listen to it directly from the computer & did so a few minutes ago. You're right playback from the PC didn't produce the dropout(when I think of skip,I picture what vinyl used to do. Sorry to nitpik over terminology,can't help myself sometimes.) This reminds me of the problems that a lot of people were having after downloading firmware updates for their Toshiba HD-DVD players. The aggravating thing was not everyone was developing the bugs. Different "batches" of the same model players were more sensitive to the firmware upgrades. A fix for many , was to reinstall the previous firmware version. Hopefully Zune customer support is as good as Toshiba customer support was(& still is, I don't know if it's their professional integrity or what but I still recieve firmware update CDs through the mail & HD-DVD is a dead format for a while now.)
post #208 of 390
We have a better chance they fix these bugs if more ppl at least post their issues at Zune.net

They are always patrolling those forums
post #209 of 390
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Dawkins View Post
We have a better chance they fix these bugs if more ppl at least post their issues at Zune.net

They are always patrolling those forums
I do hope they patrol these forums, it's their own forum and their first source of customer feedback
post #210 of 390
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Originally Posted by Ricardo Dawkins View Post
We have a better chance they fix these bugs if more ppl at least post their issues at Zune.net

They are always patrolling those forums
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Originally Posted by Nicolas2305 View Post
I do hope they patrol these forums, it's their own forum and their first source of customer feedback
No, MS does not look at these forums to get feedback about the Zunes. Ricardo is right, leave comments @Zune.net if we want any of these issues fixed. That's the ONLY way it'll happen, not posting here, as the forums contain too much info on players that MS isn't concerned about.
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